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Posting quotes from companies -- ok?

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jwarrend
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Hi guys,

It seems that some people have been, of late, posting specific quotes that they've received for game production, with the name of the company indicated. I contend that this is not really something we want to encourage. Putting myself in the company's shoes, while they may not explicitly forbid such conduct, neither does it seem to me that they're giving you full permission to broadcast their quote on a public forum.

Matthew didn't, in the previous discussion, seem all that bothered by the practice. What say you, other admins? Do we want/need to take an "official" position on this issue?

Thanks,

Jeff

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Posting quotes from companies -- ok?

I'm completely fine by it. Trade groups commonly share their quotes with each other to see who's getting ripped off, and we are sort-of a trade group.

Now, mind you, it might not be so great for the person who posts it, as this is an entirely public forum, but I have absolutely no objection to them being posted.

-- Matthew

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Posting quotes from companies -- ok?

Hey Jeff, sorry I just jumped into the thread there with a decision without conferring with you further. The thread was starting to go pretty far (speculation and requests for a ruling) so I made an executive decision. I'd be more than happy to further discuss it here and change things -- I made sure to put a proviso at the front of my post that said "for the time being".

Most of all I don't want to have stepped on your toes. Too many years as partner or owner of a company means I have a tendency -- sometimes good, sometimes bad -- to just make a decision and go with it. In this arena it's not as necessary most of the time, so please accept my apologies if you felt insulted.

-- Matthew

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Posting quotes from companies -- ok?

I'd like to add that I thought it was handled well in the thread, since (once again!) some issues were raised that people may not have thought about.

(And just saying "well, we'll write a FAQ" probably isn't going to cut it :))

jwarrend
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Posting quotes from companies -- ok?

Matthew,

It's fine by me that you made a command decision; it's my understanding that you are the de facto "head admin" with Michael on hiatus, so when admins disagree, it's your say that should carry the day. No problem there.

However, I can't say that I'm completely satisfied with your ruling; not that I care, ultimately, what the ruling on this issue is, so much as that I'd like to be very sure that we're not endorsing or encouraging a practice that companies frown on, and I feel that there isn't yet evidence on the table that companies do or do not mind this kind of thing. I feel that you, and Lee, and others, have made eminently reasonable arguments as to why it shouldn't matter, but what we haven't heard is an actual "ok" from a company. Personally, I'd like to hear from Delano, or whomever, on this subject, and I'd be happy to send them an email with this question.

In the grand scheme of things, of course, this is a pretty minor point. I just don't want the situation where it turns out that companies really *do* frown on this kind of thing, and the effect of posting this info effectively poisons the well for other BGDF members with that company. An extreme and unlikely case, to be sure, just want to avoid it if possible.

Thanks again for your note, I appreciate it, and I'm very happy you nipped the conversation in the bud, because heaven knows I didn't want it to start up again...

-Jeff

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Completely support Matthew on this. However we may want to encourage users to post a 'your mileage may vary' disclaimer. I.E. A lot of times quotes are very specific to the specifications provided by the client. My deck of 120 cards may have very different requirements than your deck of 120 cards, and the price quote might reflect that difference. If we don't do this, then a member may complain to Delano or whomever something to the effect of "You gave such and such this quote for 120 cards, why aren't you charging me the same?". That is when I think it could come back to haunt us.

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