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I'm looking for a recognisable part of the world which is donut shaped for a game design. Specifically I'm looking for a ring-shape with mostly consistent width borders around the central hole. It would also help if there's a reasonably consistent scattering of cities, towns, villages, hamlets or whatever around the central hole and across the width of the border. Candidates might be a state or political region surrouding a lake, sea or crater; an atol of unusually large size (ie large enough to support at least a dozen+ significant habitation sites; or even Hal Clement's "Mission into Gravity" world (assuming that the high-G regions could be treated as a hole).

I don't particularly care where in the world it is. It could even be from a work of fiction if the fictional work is reasonably well known. Larry Niven's Ringworld is thus a candiate but isn't ideal due to the land masses being so broken up by seas. Clement's MiG world is just poorly mapped. My players prefer at least a pretense of thematic consistency and I know exactly what I want to do with the game, I just need an arbitrary location theme to bolt it on to. My best idea so far is to just pick a ring of land around Lake Baikal in Russia, and that's not much of an idea (fascinating tho Lake Baikal is).

Any more interesting ideas?

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how about some strip of land a bit south of the north pole? Or north of the south pole?

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Check maps.google.com. It has a scrollable zoomable map of the world. I could recommend a few spots but it might be easier if you looked yourself since ultimately only you know exactly what you have in mind.

-Darke

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Since sci-fi seems to be acceptable, how about the north pole of mars (Oceansu Borealis). Here you have a flat featurelss depression of great size surrounded by a ring of interesting terrain.

Then simply apply whichever martian sci-fi theme appeals. Some examples:

HG Wells
Mars Victoriana (many RPGs and games with 'victorians go to mars in steam rockets type themes)
Kim Stanley Robinson - Red,Green and Blue Mars
Any one of many 'little green men' scenarios.

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You might look up taal volcano in the philippines. The crater consists of a tiny island in a lake, on an island, in a lake, on an island, in the ocean.

http://volcano.und.edu/vwdocs/volc_images/img_taal1.html

it looks nice on google maps if you search for: taal ph
then switch to satellite and zoom/pan around a little bit. It's south of manila on the same island (luzon?).

It is a very interesting place socio-economically as you have very expensive resort villages on the shores of the largest lake and then you have people who barely subsist on the island in that lake between farming fish in the largest lake and hunting(primarily fowl) and maintaining some livestock on that island while the innermost lake and island don't provide much as there is still active venting there and the center island/rock is a new dome from the volcano. Though, what the innermost crater does provide is some tourism income. As a tourist it is easy to find a boat to charter to take you to the island, and once there those who live there would be glad to guide your party on a hike to the crater.

pretty cool place all in all, I think I have some photos somewhere.

hey, this could be a doomed civilization entry ;-)

hope this helps.

peace,
Tom

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I like the north/south pole comment. Might I suggest you just use Antarctica itself? The 'hole' in your donut can simply be the really-cold, uninhabitable part in the middle.

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You might look up taal volcano in the philippines. The crater consists of a tiny island in a lake, on an island, in a lake, on an island, in the ocean.

I just want to cast my vote for this being a phenomenal geological occurance! ie, Cool! =)

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9 deg 27' 50'' N
13 deg 47' 34'' W

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Wow, that taal volcano is an amazing place. Just by looking at it I now know my next project I should start on!

Justin

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The first thing I thought of was the mediterranean- I don't know if that's too big, or has "consistent width borders" though.

If you count mountains and deserts as borders, it sort of works.

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sedjtroll wrote:
how about some strip of land a bit south of the north pole? Or north of the south pole?

That would work except for the cities and other habitations requirement. This is a pick-up-and-deliver game among locations. Yeah, I could do the whole expedition supply points thing, but that jells with an otherwise railroading base poorly.

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TheReluctantGeneral wrote:
Since sci-fi seems to be acceptable...

That's more because I didn't want respondents to fail to consider fictional or imaginative answers and the best overly imaginative answers I could come up with were SF.

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...how about the north pole of mars (Oceansu Borealis). Here you have a flat featurelss depression of great size surrounded by a ring of interesting terrain.

Now that's interesting. Thanks! Yes, that could work -- just throw some fake outposts etc about the rim. The theme itself is actually uninteresting (or so my players tell me). They just like the idea that the game is "somewhere".

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nosissies wrote:
You might look up taal volcano in the philippines. The crater consists of a tiny island in a lake, on an island, in a lake, on an island, in the ocean.

Neat one. Thanks. I'm not so sure how I can wrap a railroading periphery about the crater rim, but it is an amusing challenge. Meanwhile it may be an excellent setting for yet another game... Thanks!

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That has got to be the most improbable location I've ever seen.

If I was an Evil Genius Mastermind, that would be my Secret Base.

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hey all, I did manage to find a few pictures, though they are somewhat nondescript and rather low resolution wal-mart quality scans of negatives, still interesting...

This page has a few shots taken at the inner most lake ...
http://kiehl.brunswick.ny.us/aindex.php?gallery=2000/05-May/Philippines/...

and a few shots from the boat ride and hike...
http://kiehl.brunswick.ny.us/aindex.php?gallery=2000/05-May/Philippines/...

(note that the artillery is not located at taal, rather on corregidor at the mouth of manila bay)

see you all on the flip-side of the up-grade

peace,
Tom

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