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Great forum!!!

Wondering if anyone can help me locate a company which specializes in game boards, etc - hoping to find them in the Toronto area.

I spoke to another company in this area and they quoted me $500 CAN for 1 prototype (and I do all the work, they just print and package it).

thanks in advance.

Lee
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I have an appointment with a printing co. in Waterloo next week. I will let you know what their price is. Did you find out what their minimum lot order is and price per unit to print is? Just curious. I don't know of a company that specializes in board games either, but if I find one, I will be sure to let you know.

Lee

Chip
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It's not clear to me whether you're looking for prototyping services or someone to do a run of your game. Either way you might want to contact The Packaging Network. They do games. They're located outside Toronto in Mississauga. Web site = www.pkgnetwork.com .

Chip

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Wow pardon my french but that is a damned nice find! Definite wiki fodder!

Lee
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I agree, this site is amazing, thank you so much chip for this info. I will definitely be contacting them.
Has anyone actually dealt with the packaging network ? Do you have any idea what their minimum print run is and the cost?

Lee

Anonymous
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thanks Guys for the responses.

Lee,
I went to a place in Mississauga and this is what they quoted me (estimates of course):
- $500/prototype (this would be ink jet printing)
- $25/game if 1000 quantity (high quality printing)
- $10/game if 5000 quantity (high quality printing)
The website is http://www.payperbox.com
Please let me know how your appointment in Waterloo goes.

thanks Chip for the link.

Lee
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av47

Thanks for the information. Wow, that sounds kind of pricey. Hopefully my quotes will be a bit cheaper. I will let you know. I also e-mailed the packaging network in Mississauga. Have you checked the site out yet. Their work looks incredible. I wonder what they charge.

Lee

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realistic expectations

I understand that getting quotes can be like sticker shock: however, i think you need to state your expectations publically or write them down. My experience so far has shown you get what you pay for. If you really want to sell the games and start a business, first impressions matter. Maybe you spend more money than you'd like if you're serious. Or not, it's up to you to decide.

If for financial reasons you cut some corners, you might need to put your expectations in check. Some retailers might not want to carry a less costly game if it looks that way. Therefore, you might need to work gaming conventions, internet etc. as your realistic avenues of sales.

I'm going through this now myself which means I'm asking myself the same questions. When in doubt, make a business plan.

HR Puff

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Hey HRPuffenstuf,

Some good points - I guess it's our first time, so it is a bit of a shock. That is the reason I would like to consult other manufacturers to see if this is the norm.

I defintely don't want to create a product which looks cheap and amateurish, but I also want to get the best value for my money.

Lee, I did look at the site - I want to talk to them and understand their charges. Let me know how the Waterloo thing goes..

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printers

I hope my post didn't come across as being a jerk b/c it wasn't meant to be understood that way. I think like car buying, we all have to decide what kind of car we want. If getting from home to the grocery store is all you need then the advice on how to make a game on a budget (contained on this board) is excellent. If you're going for a Rolls Royce...different story. May we all succeed with our different types of vehicles :)

HR Puff

Lee
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av47

I took my game in for a price on printing and packaging but he will have to get back to me. My game is going require die cutting, so he has to get a price for that first which will add to the cost. I will let you know what I find out.

Lee

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thanks Lee.

Do you have the location/phone for this place? It was in Waterloo, correct?

av47.

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av47

Here is my quote -
20" octogan
90 pt board
100lb gloss printed 4/0 aqueous coating
Mount printed piece to board, die cut and spot mount to backer board

500=$10.80 each
1000=$8.10 each
1500=$7.30 each

These prices are not including box and packaging
Golden Triangle Printing
135 Lexington Rd. Waterloo On.
519-725-1414

Lee

Chip
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Lee wrote:
I agree, this site is amazing, thank you so much chip for this info. I will definitely be contacting them.
Has anyone actually dealt with the packaging network ? Do you have any idea what their minimum print run is and the cost?

Lee

I actually used the Packaging Network when I originally printed our first game Coopetition. I'm not comfortable laying out the specifics of the quote here other than to say their minimum quantity was 1000 at the time I printed. You'll have to talk with them about the specifics of your game if you want hard numbers. Of all the domestic options (I considered Canada as a domestic option for me even though I'm in Minnesota), the Packaging Network was the most reasonable. They were quite helpful and patient with me too, given this was my first game. After identifying possible vendors I ended up getting three quotes and ultimately chose the Packaging Network. I was under a time crunch too at the time I went to manufacture. The Packaging Network came through for me.

For our second game, Stumblebum I took a different approach all together. The details of which I'll not bore anyone with. But I've kept the Packaging Network in mind as I contemplate a second run of Coopetition and subsequent games currently in development.

Chip

Lee
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Thanks Chip, this is good to know. I am presently waiting for a quote from the PN on my game. Coopetition looks and sounds great. Congratulations on your success. I only hope that I will be in your shoes in the near future, since I am still working on my first game.

Take care

Lee

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