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Krakit
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THAT is the question.

Is it smart/wise to submit a "ready for publication" unpublished game on BGG?

Has anyone ever heard of a game that went from boardgamegeek's unpublished list to the published list?

I know that my good friend Al Newman's Winds of Plunder is currently on the Geek's "unpublished" list. GMT will be publishing it eventually, but it's still on the unpublished list.

Thanks,
Carl

Jpwoo
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To 'Geek' or not to 'Geek'?

I don't think it is a good idea to submit a game to the geek that isn't available to the public in some capacity.

Krakit
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To 'Geek' or not to 'Geek'?

A link to all the "unpublished" games on the geek.

A link to the submission FAQ for unpublished.

(Edited by FastLearner to solve a url length display problem.)

Jpwoo
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To 'Geek' or not to 'Geek'?

Many of these games are available, at least in the form of rules or a pdf.

I guess I just don't like the idea of vaporware going up on the geek so to speak.

Not to suggest that your game is vaporware.

Krakit
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To 'Geek' or not to 'Geek'?

Well, my game was about to be published by Plenary games in 2003.
Unfortunately, just before it could see production, Plenary (of Fresh Fish Fame) went belly up.

That left such a bad taste in my mouth that I gave up on even trying to publish this game ever.

However, I've had a lot of time to lick my wounds. The game is a really good one (even if I am saying so myself) and I think I'd like to give it another try.

I'm considering putting up photos, rules and descriptions on the geek. I won't put any rating or critique of the game up myself. There are dozens of play testers that could do that if they want to.

I'm wondering if a game can go from a geek unpublished listing to a final, published listing.

Is there a stigma? Will it actually hurt or help my chances with publishers?

Carl

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To 'Geek' or not to 'Geek'?

Carl,

Was your game "Dark Light"?

I doubt there's an official answer to your question, but I can take a guess as well as the next guy.

My first suggestion would be to make sure it's ok with the 'Geek. They do have an "unpublished prototype" entry but that's more for people to keep track of what games they've played. They may not mind if designers posted their unpublished games, and if they don't, it certainly wouldn't hurt to post it.

My guess is that it will neither help nor hurt your efforts to find a publisher. I can't imagine publishers scour the 'Geek looking for unpublished games to publish -- directly contacting a publisher will take you much farther. If you're trying to generate "buzz" for the game, I don't know if simply having a listing will really help that, but it probably won't hurt either.

I'm not sure how publishers feel about public disclosure of game information, and whether they'd be willing to publish a game that had previously had its rulebook publically posted. Maybe they wouldn't even ask about it in the first place.

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I won't put any rating or critique of the game up myself. There are dozens of play testers that could do that if they want to...
Is there a stigma?

This is the only point where I'd be careful. One thing the 'Geek community really seems to dislike is shills, because it can mess with the sancticty of The Ratings. I think it's generally considered ok for playtesters to rank a game, but if your game has 20 ratings of "10" and no other ratings, it's a pretty sure bet no one will take it very seriously. Other than that, it's probably ok.

So, my answer to your question is, for the most part, "your guess is as good as mine". What is your reason for wanting to post your game onto the 'Geek in the first place?

-Jeff

Krakit
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To 'Geek' or not to 'Geek'?

I want to be able to link to the Geek entry in my submission letters.

However, I don't know if it's a good idea or not.

Wish I knew what was best here.

Carl

P.S., no mine wasn't Dark Light, but I know that they met the same fate as I did, as well as the Game Jet Set that was designed by the Baloon Cup guy (forgot his name).

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