Actually I'm a little nervous about this but here we go...
Feeeed Meeeee was one of the games that I came up with to the Micro game contest (the one that didn?t happened). It also exist an older Black & White version, which uses pawns instead of markers.
Feeeeed Meeeeee
The file is 1,9 MB and its only 4 pages (some graphic examples are included). I also wanted to include the word-version, but that is not up to date.
// Johan
Wow! A very nice rulebook, game, and art! Great job!
Components, Theme, and Art
I only have VERY MINOR suggestions in this area. I would change the Smalls to Goblins or Gnomes or something just to add some more flavor. Also, make it clear where the start is (even though it's obviously 0) just to clarify the start and finish. A VERY GOOD JOB with the art! You need to have the Rulebook proofread for spelling and grammar as well.
Theme
I really like the theme. The only change I would make is the smalls to goblins change I suggested above and that's more a matter of opinion.
Game
I really like the game. I think this could be a blast. I do have a big suggestion for the gameplay. Instead of having the phases/turns make it maybe something like Puerto Rico where the phases are all at once. You could have those phases be cards to be selected in any order. I don't think this would hurt gameplay much and would create a more chaotic feel to the game (which compliments the theme). Have everyone start with a 2 random food cards then the first player chooses a role. Then in clockwise order each player fulfills that role. Maybe have a way to allow a player to take his turn immediately (giving players 2 tokens to do so in a game)...I got a little carries away there, sorry.
Overall, I think you have a great game here.
Hi Johan ...
Very nice game, first of all ... not sure why you were nervous to post it. Like onew0rd said, the artwork, rules booklet layout and (especially) the little narratives add a lot to the flavor of the game.
I only have a couple questions after my initial read-through ... During the start-of-game setup, do the players who place multiple Smalls into storage rooms (2nd, 3rd, 4th players) place all of their Smalls in the *same* room, or can they distribute them among several rooms as they wish?
From play-testing, does there seem to be a big first-player advantage if all players start with all Smalls behind the table? (I assume this is the reasoning for allowing each player to place a different number of Smalls in storage rooms at the start.)
Thanks Johan ... lookin' good! ;)
-Bryk
... not sure why you were nervous to post it.
Like onew0rd said, the artwork, rules booklet layout and (especially) the little narratives add a lot to the flavor of the game.
I only have a couple questions after my initial read-through ... During the start-of-game setup, do the players who place multiple Smalls into storage rooms (2nd, 3rd, 4th players) place all of their Smalls in the *same* room, or can they distribute them among several rooms as they wish?
From play-testing, does there seem to be a big first-player advantage if all players start with all Smalls behind the table? (I assume this is the reasoning for allowing each player to place a different number of Smalls in storage rooms at the start.)
Thanks for your input. Glad you liked the game.
// Johan
Hi Johan,
The rules should definitly be proofread. Sometimes you use two terms for the same game item (e.g. Food Card / Food Marker). This is a bit confusing.
I really liked the anecdotes about the Feeeed Meeee game. They remind me of the Blood Bowl Rulebook.
If you don't want to call your small trolls "goblins" you could call them "trollkin" as they are called in the RPG Runequest.
Nils
First of all: Welcome to the forum SparkValor
The rules should definitly be proofread. Sometimes you use two terms for the same game item (e.g. Food Card / Food Marker). This is a bit confusing.
If you don't want to call your small trolls "goblins" you could call them "trollkin" as they are called in the RPG Runequest.
// Johan
Hello
From the idea that onew0rd come up with, I am now working with a variant of the game (back to the drawing table). It will be tested in a couple of weeks.
The new variant will have a deck of cards instead of dice. The order will go clockwise around the table.
Each player get one "Feed the troll" card and 5 other cards are dealt to each of them.
When it's you turn you must play one card from your hand. If you play the "Feed the Troll" card, you must feed the Troll (as in the original) but you will also receive new cards (up to the 6 card limit).
The other cards will be (the one that I could think of):
- Move x Smalls (Where x is a value between 1-6) It works as the dice roll (except for the hungry troll movement).
- Regroup (Move any number of Smalls that are in rooms to any room at the same side).
- Threw them out (Threw one Small out from each room where you are more then them. There trolls will get hungrier).
- Get Food (Get food from rooms where you are the strongest one (I can have some variants on this theme).
- Steal food (Steal food from another player where you have more Smalls that are "Hidden behind the Table" then them.
- Trade: Trade any number of foods with another player (Your pick).
- You are blocked (Another player can't do anything his next turn.
- Your troll is hungry (Move another players troll one step).
- You know that I'm cheating, but not how (All the other players trolls will move one step).
- Feed the Troll.
Some of the cards will have a "hungry Troll" mark. When those cards are used your Troll will get hungrier.
Thank for the idea onew0rd.
// Johan
Hello, and thank you for sharing your game. I truly enjoyed the blend of theme and illustrations--you and your daughter are very talented!!!
I haven't read all of the previous posts yet, but I did look over your last post and noticed the idea for using cards to advance the hunger-line. While this is a valid idea, I actually preferred the original method of rolling two dice and then using high or low based on how much you cann accept your troll's hunger increasing. I thought that was a very nice mechanic for the actions allowed. It gives players a good decision to make in a relatively light game. Since you already use cards for the food markers, I would suggest keeping the variety of having dice for the action portion.
I was curious if your playtests have actually come in at 15-20 minutes as stated in the rules. With rolling, moving the chef, using from 1-6 moves of a small trolls and then laying out cards, in addition to movement up to 12 spaces (with many possible chances to move backwards)... I just don't see all this happening (with 3-4 players) in 15-20 minutes. It seems like it would take closer to 60 minutes for the average game, which isn't a bad thing.
Just to clarify a few points that weren't clear in the rules:
The game ends when a chef reaches the "6" space on the hungry scale? The description in the rules of the end game condition is nice and thematic, but you should translate into terms used on the board. If the 6 space ends the game (and therefore has no need of being numbered since the numbers are used for game actions), you could simply put "End" in that space.
Can players use other players' card chains to feed their troll? I assume they can't, but you should make that clear in the rules. Also, can a troll eat any player's small troll? Again, that should be clear.
Other than that I thought the game was inventive and clever! On a technical note, the PDF is by no means low res, which is OK, just put a warning that it will take a while to download or spool to a printer (or make a downsampled version if you can).
Since english is your second language, have you considered having someone look over your rules for a thorough spelling and grammer check? Considering your illustration skills, I'm sure that there are many on this site (myself included) that would be willing to do this in exchange for (minor) illustration work.
Again thanks for sharing your game and good luck with it!
I really like the theme, and the small trivia about the Trolls.
By the rules I infer that this is a racing game where don't want to be the first. This is an interesting mechanic, you try to avoid the inevitable.
It is difficult for me to understand a game by the rules only, but it seems that the choose between high / low die result and move 2 / 1 positions is not really important, and the winner will be someone who got lucky.
I assume that you play tested it, so it really take 15 minutes to do a complete game? You always advance, more or less advance, but you can't keep the Troll feed.
Paulo
www.2concept.com
Hello, and thank you for sharing your game. I truly enjoyed the blend of theme and illustrations--you and your daughter are very talented!!!
I haven't read all of the previous posts yet, but I did look over your last post and noticed the idea for using cards to advance the hunger-line. While this is a valid idea, I actually preferred the original method of rolling two dice and then using high or low based on how much you cann accept your troll's hunger increasing. I thought that was a very nice mechanic for the actions allowed. It gives players a good decision to make in a relatively light game. Since you already use cards for the food markers, I would suggest keeping the variety of having dice for the action portion.
I was curious if your playtests have actually come in at 15-20 minutes as stated in the rules. With rolling, moving the chef, using from 1-6 moves of a small trolls and then laying out cards, in addition to movement up to 12 spaces (with many possible chances to move backwards)... I just don't see all this happening (with 3-4 players) in 15-20 minutes. It seems like it would take closer to 60 minutes for the average game, which isn't a bad thing.
The game ends when a chef reaches the "6" space on the hungry scale? The description in the rules of the end game condition is nice and thematic, but you should translate into terms used on the board. If the 6 space ends the game (and therefore has no need of being numbered since the numbers are used for game actions), you could simply put "End" in that space.
Can players use other players' card chains to feed their troll? I assume they can't, but you should make that clear in the rules. Also, can a troll eat any player's small troll? Again, that should be clear.
I will update the rules to make this clear
Other than that I thought the game was inventive and clever! On a technical note, the PDF is by no means low res, which is OK, just put a warning that it will take a while to download or spool to a printer (or make a downsampled version if you can).
Since english is your second language, have you considered having someone look over your rules for a thorough spelling and grammer check? Considering your illustration skills, I'm sure that there are many on this site (myself included) that would be willing to do this in exchange for (minor) illustration work.
// Johan
By the rules I infer that this is a racing game where don't want to be the first. This is an interesting mechanic, you try to avoid the inevitable.
It is difficult for me to understand a game by the rules only, but it seems that the choose between high / low die result and move 2 / 1 positions is not really important, and the winner will be someone who got lucky.
// Johan
Hi Johan,
First of all: Welcome to the forum SparkValor
SparkValor wrote:If you don't want to call your small trolls "goblins" you could call them "trollkin" as they are called in the RPG Runequest.
I like that, but is Trollkin a Trademark or is it possible to use it.
I don't think it is a Trademark. But if it is, it is a Trademark of Greg Stafford / Issaries Inc.
I know Greg Stafford personally and don't think he minds.
Nils
For what it's worth, I like the term "Smalls", it's cute and original.
For what it's worth, I like the term "Smalls", it's cute and original.
-Bryk
I tested the game this evening with a group that had never played the game before. Both times (including description of the rules) took 20 minutes.
// Johan
One thing that I didn't see metioned so far in the other comments was the trouble that I had reading through the rulebook since you switch back and forth between one and two-column layout. This might just be because I'm trying to read it on the screen (as opposed to in print), but going from page to page, I was never 100% sure which column came first. Should I read the left column all the way down? Was this printed such that it would become a booklet later? Just a little confusing.
My other question deals with the initial placement of the Smalls. The rules specify that first player places X Smalls, second places X+1, etc. But it doesn't spell out where the rest of them go. Is the "behind the table" area off the board? At first, I thought this would have been on the board directly behind the image of the Troll that is there.
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Thanks
The reason why it was Smalls where that I use these small trolls in several games, where Goblins also are present, but I will consider it.
I believe that the start was stated in the picture in page 1 (position "The troll is not hungry"), but maybe it is not clear enough.
I will tell my daughter. She draws most of the basic arts for me (she has done all the trolls and the smalls in this game).
Yes I know , English is not my native language and sometimes I have a really hard time with it.
I have tried to have random phase in other games with mixed result. The game is really chaotic today(you will have a hard time to control your Big Troll), but I give it a will try (I have a game session coming up soon and I will do a version to that).
Thank one more time. I'm glad that you liked it.
// Johan