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I am looking for "a lot" of normal D6.

Yet 6 different colours; red, orange, yellow, green, blue, purple.
And 2 groups, where I think the dots can be either white or black.

Thus a total of 12 different dice.

I also wonder what would be better:
- the dice in a colour while the dots are white or black.
- the dice are white or black, while the dots are in a colour.

Can I get these somewhere? Or should I get them custom made?

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Chessex by all means ought to

Chessex by all means ought to have them. If they only have the pips in white then you can color them in with a Sharpie to produce the black pips. They sell cubes of multiple dice in various sizes in the colors you are looking for. If not them then Koplow, who I believe do more in the way of plain opaques but are of slightly lower quality. If by "a lot" you mean 1k+ per color then I may be able to dig up the contact info for the company in England that manufactures Chessex's dice from back when I used to order from them.

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Hope this helps. :)

Chessex - www.chessex.com
DiceaHolic - https://diceaholic.wordpress.com/category/dice-manufacturers/
Dice Game Depot - http://www.dicegamedepot.com/blank-dice/
The Game Crafter - www.thegamecrafter.com

Note: The bottom 2 need stickers.

Out of Box Ideas
Halfsies - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/johnwrot/halfsies-dice?ref=nav_search

Custom
Koplow Games - http://www.koplowgames.com/

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Well, you have a lot of

Well, you have a lot of places to look for your dice, but you asked about the colour scheme. I think that lisibility would be better with coloured dice with black/white dots. It is easier to spot if a dot is black or white on a die than if it's orange or yellow, unless you make them quite big.

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Thanks. It's obvious to me

Thanks.

It's obvious to me now that black dots on purple or white on yellow wont do ... well.

Any suggestion for having the 2 groups while maintaining 6 colours? Replacing purple with pink is fine. Or replacing a colour with white or black will do as well.

I think i need to draw all possibilities on paper before i spend my cash.

It is only for 1 prototype at the moment. Thus a mass manufacture that has some spare bags will do fine.

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I don't know if it's

I don't know if it's possible, but could you do a white circle around the black dots and a black circle around the white dots? This way they would always pop out.
I think it may be "too complicated" for an automated dice manufacture, but who knows!

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EAI education generally has

EAI education generally has good prices on dice, too: http://www.eaieducation.com/search.aspx?Keyword=dice&category=-1

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truekid games wrote:EAI

truekid games wrote:
EAI education generally has good prices on dice, too: http://www.eaieducation.com/search.aspx?Keyword=dice&category=-1

Most generic dice sold through educational companies are manufactured by Koplow, so you'll know when comparing prices.

Sliverik wrote:
I don't know if it's possible, but could you do a white circle around the black dots and a black circle around the white dots? This way they would always pop out.
I think it may be "too complicated" for an automated dice manufacture, but who knows!

Not complicated at all, but it substantially increases his cost. A dozen plain opaque 16mm D6 won't cost him more than $3.50 at full retail. Having custom dice manufactured means committing to a hefty bulk order and paying a tooling fee on top of the cost of the actual dice.

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Current work in progress, finishing touches

I have a stack of blank dice. For the current prototype, these are sufficient. It is only for testing looks.

I printed all the colours with the possible dots.
Trying out every combination.

I also have plenty of stickers. So I will select the best combinations and use these.

For the base, definitely the colours. For the dots, I "was" using the black and white.
It doesn't work well the other way around since it is harder to compare colours when watching tiny dots. (orange/red)

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On the other hand. My crew uses cups to throw the dice with. Perhaps simply using 1 cup for every player that is in conflict is a better idea. We always loved the 3 or more way combat mechanics.

So, with each player having the dice rolled and placed on the table. Removing will be done of the low rolls. and the remaining dice are placed back in the cup.

So each player has his/her own little stack.

As end result we decided on complimentary colours for the dice.
http://www.andrewnewland.com/homepage/teaching/techniques/painting/colou...

Red with Green
Orange with Blue
Yellow with Purple
Black with White
Thus having 8 different dice.

If one of the above companies already has these in stock. I will buy some. But I am not going to ask for mass production of these. That is not our current goal ;)

Thanks so far for all the information.
As usual, suggestions are still welcome.

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Thanks for the link mention

Thanks for the link mention Eberhardt. : )

As for the OP, I hope you find the dice you're looking for. Q-Workshop made great custom dice for us in the past.

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X3M wrote: Any suggestion for

X3M wrote:

Any suggestion for having the 2 groups while maintaining 6 colours?

If you're still looking to do this (I'm not certain from reading what you've posted recently), I have a suggestion.

Why not have one group of dice with the traditional dots and the other with numbers like you'd get in a dice set? I'm not sure what that would do to the price of the dice, but I know it's something they already make. Likely cheaper than custom dice, anyway.

And the look of numbered and dotted together, for me, is kind of 'eh'. But it solves the problem! Assuming you're still having the problem.

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Yeah, sorry, I wasn't looking

Yeah, sorry, I wasn't looking any more.

Your reply would have been brilliant. Why didn't I think of that.
But it only works for 2 players.

What would you suggest when having 3 or more players?

Each player has his/her own cup to roll the dice with.
We still print the stickers and add them to blank dice. But if any one can tell me if the following dice already exist. Please let me know.

Black with white dots
White with black dots
Green with red dots
Red with green dots
Blue with orange dots
Orange with blue dots
Purple with yellow dots
Yellow with purple dots

(I can't post pictures any more? I exceeded my 8 Mb)

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X3M wrote:Yeah, sorry, I

X3M wrote:
Yeah, sorry, I wasn't looking any more.

Your reply would have been brilliant. Why didn't I think of that.
But it only works for 2 players.

What would you suggest when having 3 or more players?


I think the best I can think of at the moment can only get you up to four, MAYBE six if such a thing I'm thinking of exists. It's not super duper elegant but it functions.

I was looking at the Floating Market kickstarter (http://kck.st/18zqj8d if you're interested in it) and saw the dice upgrade they did. They went from these... http://bit.ly/1xc52b2 ...to these... http://bit.ly/1GpWzWE ...as a bonus for reaching a goal.

My thought was why not have one player have the plain solid-colored ones, then another with the cream-colored marble ones. I don't know if there's a black-colored marble version of those dice, but that could give you another set. Combine both of those with having a dot and number version of each and you'd have 6 different sets.

That being said, it's not an elegant solution and I know I'd personally lose track unless I had something in front of me to remind me which dice are mine.

You could also see if you could get the primary colors you need mottled with colors like silver, gold, cream, black, etc. Colors that wouldn't interfere with telling the colors from one another.

Again I don't know if that exists. But if it did, I'd forgo the dots and numbers solution to avoid confusion and just do mottled colors to tell the dice apart.

Another idea I had, that I'm assuming wouldn't work, is to have the number one on each die be colored differently. You could go back to the original solution you had without the color-matching being an issue. But then there'd be a lot of turning the dice and touching them and stuff.

Hope that helps!

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Sometimes I get really tired

Sometimes I get really tired of myself.

I was looking on the wrong page.

http://www.chessex.com/Dice/Translucent/trans_dice_home.htm

Those are the dice that I want. The end :D
Translucent allows for only one colour to be visible.
But there are so many dice, I can go in to 2 directions with the game now.
Only the smoke has red dots. Thus 9 remain in the same style.

First, each player his/her own dice for fast rolling.
Once advanced play starts, we still can use the cups when needed.

Thanks every one for your help.

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Or why not use translucent

Or why not use translucent dice for the other group? As in not different colored dots, but other dice is flat color and the other is see-thru? I'd think would be better for readability.

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KeeperoftheGate wrote:Thanks

KeeperoftheGate wrote:
Thanks for the link mention Eberhardt. : )

You're more then welcome. Sorry in delayed response I've been working 10 to 11 hr days so I just saw this now.

As a peer said yesterday "I'm only working a half day, why aren't the rest of you." there was a pause then a look then "Yup that's a 12 hour day."

Lol I don't know how he keeps that up. :)

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