superhero game - change of mechanics - input please

i just thought of something,

do you guys feel like this would be better if you had the heroes in your hand and you could only play em when the rooms available gave you enough points to play em? And different cards could destroy rooms to let new ones in, as well as attack the heroes other players have available,

and you'd be able to have 1 hero per room in play like before, but heroes/villarns could not be adjacent and all that.

Idk though , i think the building your own dungeon would be better, but i'd be looking at a lot more work with the cards i think.

Hey Blunder,

Thanks for the input,

This would be a total scrap from the earlier design. I liked it, but it wasn't getting even close to what i was hoping it would be. My idea stemmed from reading the Civil War (marvel storyline). Where after the events are finalized, all the superpowered being that registered within the superhero registration act got dispersed to be superteams in various areas around the US. My idea was that something like this happened and you're running a team out in the middle of nowhere. Trying to stop crimes and do all these things. I think villains is not an entirely appropriate term, let's call them reformed convicts.

I like the hospital idea, but im not sure if we're on the same page. Maybe a different theme could be better, but it wouldn't fit my idea of drafting a team of super powered beings. Think of it like that iOS game Middle Manager of Justice, where people build the hero's base to house, train and develop a hero's ability so that they can defend the town and get more funding.

in my idea rooms would do different things, let's say a room raises morale, so a psychic hero would be less effective. Or a gym might give all you' a bonus to attack. or other abilities.

Hey Mr Beard. That's what I was thinking. A death ray room and minion room could attract this big bad guy, but once you draw him and place him in a room that gives you access to his powers, that room becomes unavailable to continue, so you could use the minion room to bid but not the death ray that's housing bad guy. But at the same time, how do you feel about different rooms might give you an extra goal. Like, death ray room could let you win by having 5/6 supers be villains. Idk, any thoughts?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fifty_State_Initiative

that's where i got the idea for both heroes and villains on the same team.

that's the dream Mr Beard.

ideally, like i said, i was looking at each hero be attracted by two different kinds of rooms. So you would need a minion barracks and a death ray to attract Dr Facemelter, but when Dr Facemelter joins your hero team, you set him to reside in the Death Ray room to start taking advantage of that room as it is "manned" now, so now the death ray room cannot be used to attract new people until Dr Facemelter is either dead or disbanded. So let's say Captain Justice, the mega awesome hero, could be more powerful, but you would need 2 rooms instead of needing 2 out of 3 different ones for hte lower weaker guys. I think the base value could work as well,

I don;t know about base types, i think that might complicate things more then i'd like. Like i said, a hero would need 2 rooms, the strong heroes would need rarer rooms in the deck, idk. the point system is nice in that it broadens what you can get in your hands, maybe I can assign different types like you said, minions or destruction, or defense, or idolize, and the supers would be attracted to those specific types, but they need an open room of one of their two types to reside. That's an interesting idea on how to broaden it and not at the same time. Let's say a hero needs 2 destruction and a minion type room to come into your team, then you would need those 3, but one of them would need to be vacant.

This is a good idea,
thanks mr beard,
i will incorporate

one more thought. using the same mechanics as when a room is manned it becomes unavailable. Do you think it'd be better to classify rooms into categories, like Tech, Elemental, Mind and Physical or to follow my original plan of having the actual rooms be the ones that draw in the heroes. So lets say Dr Facemelter likes The Rec Room and the Death Ray room, you pull him in and the rec room becomes unavailble and the death room is still used to pull supers. But, would it be better if lets say dr facemelter likes tech rooms and elemental rooms and if you have one of each available he can be pulled and he'll settle on whichever you desire.

I think having the categories will broaden the amount of cards that can pull heroes making it a little bit easier to grab them, but I don't want it to be too easy, any thoughts?

You hit the nail on the head mr beard. The idea is that the strategy comes from placement. Dr facemelter(who's now gonna be in the game along with his dad, dr facemelter sr) needs a tech room and a elemental room to come work for you because let's face it, villains need their choices. When he is drawn into your team, not only do his personal abilities become available to you(like his attack and defends, plus his powers and passive abilities , like a super with a leader passive ability will be able to pull a second hero to attack the same spot as him, then he much have the battle cry power power that activated gives all heroes attacking a +2 to attack. ) by the downside is that once you acquire dr f and he's in your designated room, that particular room cannot be used to pull. So the conflict comes with do I wait for a hero with better stats while my base sits here unnocupied being destroyed by the other teams, or do I just take what's available and change my strategy. The idea being that there are several rooms that won give your team a passive modifier but will in fact give you a new winning goal. Right now the winner is whoever has the most crimes when the environment deck is done. But the different rooms add conditions like a full hero team can win by having all 5 supers be heroes. As well as one for villains. Or the Rec room that will let you win if you don't perform any actions at all in the next two turns, including defensive actions. I think this will give the game nice flare. Any thoughts?

Very close.

you're right,
on a player's turn he may do 2 actions
the first can be
1)obtaining resources
2)build rooms,
3)attract minions
4)attack
5)use powers
on the second action
1)attack
2)use powers
taking in note that an action cannot be repeated twice in one players turn,
so you cannot build a room and attract a super in the same turn.

When supers are placed in a room, you being to receive that room's passive ability, but they cannot be moved unless they are killed, disbanded, or you have a room that permits you to use your power to swap them around.

Romms are categorized under 1 of 4 categories. For a super to be pulled into a room, there needs to be 2 available rooms, one of each type the hero likes, that is why theres a room limit of 6 which sets the hero limit at 5. There are a couple of rooms that let you get all the way up to 6 heroes, but that's why they are so valuable. So lets say theres dr facemelter is in the tech room, and you have a tech room, a physique room and a mind room available, the next hero you pull will have to be a physique/mind hero, and once you pull him, and put him in lets say the physique room, now you will need another room becuase you can't pull anything with just a mind room.

different crimes are worth certain amount of points, there are also random events like earthquakes and things that will purposely mess up the game the players are trying to play inside the environment deck, but when the deck is exhausted, the person with the most points worth (crimes will be worth different amounts of points depending on how difficult they are, also, several crimes will give you one time use abilities. Let's say you defeat the supervillan Bomb Voyage, now you have a bomb that when used you can get a bonus towards destroying a room, as long as the hero in that room is exhausted or the room is empty)

and yes, some rooms will allow you to have a different vicory condition, like the Danger Room let's you win with a 5 man team of only heroes. But keep in mind that with only 12 heroes and 12 villairs and 6 rogues, with a 4 player game that's 20 guys taken up and 10 left over right off the bat.

everything is squared away?

Edit: a question has come to my mind. Should I make some of my heroes and villains extra powerful but requiring 3 rooms available rather then 2? If so, would zombei lincoln, the great decapitater be offensive? What about Ben franklestein! Master of electricity!?

The idea is that villains is a generic term. Think of them as reformed villains working for the good guys. It'd be like, dead pool is a reformed villain, but he's still very aggressive, so is wolverine, the hulk swings both ways. The idea to separate them is to also give some more background for the theme. If these guys used to be villains that are now good, the Hero's are bound to have some mixed feelings. Also, the idea is that by separatin the supers by a archetype that defines more what they're basic skill set is geared toward (Heros defend, villains attack, rogues can go both ways therefore not as skilled at either.) it gives new players a fighting chance against the other players. I'm setting up the play test deck so the resource deck can be replaced with a regular 52 card playing deck. Taking out all queens and kings and using the jacks as wild. Whenever I'm done I will post on here the printable file for people who care to playtest.

I'm quite excited about the idea, and thanks to your contributions, if I pursue this onto a kickstarter later ill make sure one of the heroes is Orangebeard! The mighty Celt? Well figure that out later.

As for artwork when it gets rolling ill probably want it to look a bit cheesy, for some reazon johnny bravo keeps popping up in my head. p

I've been told I should try to incorporate a nemesis mechanic, what do you think mr beard?