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Wormwood - LCG Playtesting on Tabletop Simulator or PnP

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damonstea
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WORMWOOD is a far-future, civilization combat card game, with eight different techno-tribal societies competing for control of their new homeworld. It combines elements from worker placement games, tower defense, and LCGs, to create a dynamic hybrid experience where a society can rise and fall in under 2 hours. Key points:

-Plays well with 2-5 players. Sweet spot is 3-4.
-Games average 15-30 minutes per player
-Offers the dramatic, combative tension of LCG’s with no player elimination. Multiplayer oriented.
-Focused on strong world building and emergent narratives
-Available to test in Tabletop Simulator or as a Print and Play fileset

Please take a look at the Rules

And you can get a brief overview along with a sample intro in the Tutorial Video

Unfortunately, because the game uses non-licensed temp art for many cards, I can't offer it as a public beta just yet. But if you comment below or send a PM, I can send you a zip file to PnP with your friends. If you would like to test on TTS, just comment or PM with your Steam username, and you'll be added to the playtest group!

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del. plz

(it was irrelevant, so please ignore my comment)

Calcapobe
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Looks like a solid game

Really enjoyed the tutorial video. If produced looks like a game I would be interested in. Nice theme and mechanics

questccg
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Custom artwork or Internet?

damonstea wrote:
Unfortunately, because the game uses non-licensed temp art for many cards, I can't offer it as a public beta just yet.

I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying that the artwork was produced but not paid for? Or are you saying that you used Internet images for some of the artwork that do not belong to you?

Just wanted a clarification.

BTW an FYI: you do know that the TERM "LCG" is copyrighted and owned by Fantasy Flight Games (FFG). Also "Living Card Game" is copyrighted too.

I just wanted to make you aware of this... So that you don't go and write "LCG" or "Living Card Game" in your rulebook or even worst on your box.

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamefamily/5337/living-card-game

"LIVING CARD GAMES, LCG, and the LCG logos are all registered trademarks of Fantasy Flight Publishing, Inc. All Rights Reserved."

damonstea
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The latter - internet images

The latter - internet images are used on many cards, for some of which we don't have original artist contact information. In a small alpha playtest that's a gray area, but obviously as a public TTS mod that could be detrimental to their work.

The LCG vs TCG weirdness has been one of the first things brought up - originally called the game a TCG (although there is no trading) and several people noted that LCG is more accurate (if illegal). So LCG it is, if only to draw in testers who are interested in that model, vs booster packs.

Maybe we should call it just a CG.

questccg
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There has been a lot of debate...

Many people are "offended" that FFP or FFG (whichever) would not make this an "OPEN" designation that other companies or individuals could use.

I myself am using the term "XTG": eXpandable Tabletop Game.

My game also uses the LCG "model". It's too bad, many designers have expressed interest in designing "LCG" games and would have liked to used that designation.

While it's fully in their rights to Copyright "LCG" and "Living Card Game", it doesn't show a lot of "friendliness" to the overall designer community.

Just wanted to warn you, in the event you might use the term on a box or in your rulebook... FFG (or FFP) would not like that and they could sue you or insist that you reprint whatever you used the term on/in...

Cheers.

Update: In case you are interested, there is another thread on the matter in which many designers expressed interest.

If you are interested in using the "OPEN" XTG3 notation, you can find logos at this thread: http://www.bgdf.com/forum/game-creation/design-theory/living-card-game-l...

You can PM me if you are interested in understanding what the notation signifies... I have not had the time to consult a "licensing" lawyer to make sure the notation stays OPEN and people understand that the use of the logo "grants" rights to the consumer and adds awareness to the overall initiative (designer-wise).

I'm still going to follow through with that and "Tradewars - Homeworld" will be the launched with the XTG3 designation... Even if the website is not up and ready... I have time to finalize that.

damonstea
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XTG sounds pretty good. I

XTG sounds pretty good. I fully understand their need to protect what they see as a proprietary concept, but just as WOTC trademarked 'tapping' and any variation thereof, I think it's a lost cause overall. Customizable card game is certainly the closest, if only CCG didn't immediately indicate collecting and trading to most people.

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Another form of marketing

damonstea wrote:
XTG sounds pretty good.

It's in the PLANS to have a WEBSITE which will ADVERTISE ALL games licensed using the XTG3 logo/model. It will be free of charge and you can "manage" your end-user licensing to have it up-to-date. I have already bought the domain - I need time to design a "static" website first and then maybe have something more "dynamic" later.

So every game using XTG3 can "advertise" as being "Expandable"...

damonstea wrote:
I fully understand their need to protect what they see as a proprietary concept, but just as WOTC trademarked 'tapping' and any variation thereof, I think it's a lost cause overall.

The OPEN term is "exhaust" for "tapping".

damonstea wrote:
Customizable card game is certainly the closest, if only CCG didn't immediately indicate collecting and trading to most people.

Yes indeed Customizable or Trading card game both imply collecting and trading. You don't want to use that - it's highly not recommended. I have seem one designer use "TCG" = "The Card Game"! That could also work. But it's kind of misleading...

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