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Game Publishers should post pictures of their boxes

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Nich
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I just returned from BGG.Con. It was a great experience. However, when I got home I set about punching, bagging, boxing, stickering and just plain setting up the game boxes for future use. What I found was that these clever 'inserts' are usually so much of a joke, I just pull the stuff out of there and toss it.

I realize that a lot of the stuff is for shipping, but there has to be a more economical and straight forward solution. Even the molded plastic or folded cardboard inserts that look designed to hold the game components while in the box aren't up to snuff. They have all these card slots, token holders, etc but when you get right down to it, nothing really fits.

I believe that Game Publishers should include a picture of their game somewhere on their website, stored in the insert boxes as proof that the game will actually fit into the box. Visual aids on just what was going through their minds when they designed the insert and how they expect it to work would be great. Titan, the newest release, was oh so close but failed in about 4 areas. Mission: Red Planet was a flat out bust. No where close. Insert almost met the garbage bag but I salvaged it to hold miscellaneous stuff on a shelf.

Just one picture, one, that shows how the inserts are supposed to be used would be excellent.

InvisibleJon
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Dominion fits its box nicely.

For what it's worth: Dominion fits its box nicely.

(It's also a great game. I wish I'd designed it!)

ReneWiersma
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Some publishers spend a lot

Some publishers spend a lot of time on their box inlays, while others just throw in some standard inlay and hope the players will find out a way to fit all the pieces in.

The worst box inlay I have is the one that comes with the game Maharaja by Phalanx Games (great game, btw). It has spaces for dice and cards. Of course, the game contains neither dice nor cards.

gameprinter
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ReneWiersma wrote:Some

ReneWiersma wrote:
Some publishers spend a lot of time on their box inlays, while others just throw in some standard inlay and hope the players will find out a way to fit all the pieces in.

The worst box inlay I have is the one that comes with the game Maharaja by Phalanx Games (great game, btw). It has spaces for dice and cards. Of course, the game contains neither dice nor cards.

I have a lot of people ask for a molded plastic insert. Then I tell them that the mold cost alone is $4200 to $5000 and that often ends the discussion. You have to run a lot of games to make it worth that kind of outlay.

I've seen some devilishly complicated cardboard inserts that try to duplicate the storage ability of a molded tray, but it seems the more complicated they are the worse it gets. Give me a simple center well cardboard platform with a rubber band and a ziploc bag anytime over all this other stuff!

Caparica
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gameprinter wrote: I have a

gameprinter wrote:

I have a lot of people ask for a molded plastic insert. Then I tell them that the mold cost alone is $4200 to $5000 and that often ends the discussion. You have to run a lot of games to make it worth that kind of outlay.

I've seen some devilishly complicated cardboard inserts that try to duplicate the storage ability of a molded tray, but it seems the more complicated they are the worse it gets. Give me a simple center well cardboard platform with a rubber band and a ziploc bag anytime over all this other stuff!

4k for a vacuum forming piece of plastic? Aren't confusing it with the price for injection moulding?

gameprinter
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Sadly, no confusion.

We use the same vacuform plastic maker as several "name brand" game companies. That's just what it costs to get a mold made in the US. Some molds are cheaper - $3500ish, but still. shrug. Molding costs for ANYTHING are much higher in the US than China.

(Sorry for the delayed response. Didn't check BGDF over Thanksgiving!)

Willi B
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Outboxing

Some games can be aided by keeping pieces out of the box. I know this takes up more space, but in the case of Agricola a simple one layer tackle box is cheap and helpful for game play. Make sure you buy it in your sporting goods section though as they would love to charge you more for the same thing in the crafts section of the store.

MatthewF
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At least in Agricola's case,

At least in Agricola's case, at craft stores (and dollar stores, for that matter) you can buy thinner mostly-clear compartmented cases that will fit right in the Agricola box with all of the other components and keep things very nicely separated.

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