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*** WARNING SPOILERS FOR MAD MAX: FURY ROAD ***

If you are looking to see a MOVIE one of these weekends - do yourself a big favor and PASS on "Mad Max: Fury Road". The movie has absolutely no story to it and it would probably be best if it was read from several books... The beginning of the movie is okay and towards the middle (with the car chase and pursuit)... But it gets to be old and where it loses a lot is when the "Green Place" is actually destroyed and the matron mothers are on dirt bikes living somewhere (and somehow) in the remaining desert...

There is no climax in the movie (other than finding out that the Green Place is no more) and the ending is two times as dumb as the beginning.

Eventually you would expect that IF they continued on their course they would eventually reach an ocean... Seriously don't get the ending and how stupid it was...

I give the movie a 1 star out of 10. Really, really bad.

But that's just my opinion!

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Yours is the first bad review

Yours is the first bad review I've read of this movie, which has a 98% on Rotten Tomatoes. I haven't seen it yet, but most people I know were just as put off by the trailer as I was, only to fall over themselves praising the movie after they'd seen it.

Perhaps you aren't a huge fan of the first three movies? Because I know all of the gayboy-berserkers and smegma-crazies who were so excited about Lord Humungus something like 30 years ago are equally stoked about Immortan Joe. For me, a big part of the appeal of these movies has always been the nuances and tiny details.

One cool piece of trivia is that the bad guy is played by the same actor as Toecutter from the original movie.

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IDK

Whomever write the REVIEWS of movies nowadays... but it was just HORRIBLE.

Okay the cars/trucks were cool, the lunatics with their grenades and fire-toting flamethrowers were very ... ADRENALIZED.

But there was NO STORY... Well there was a story - but it was terrible and did not at all seem plausible.

For example: the movie hinges on the ANTAGONIST chasing the PROTAGONIST ... with his ENTIRE ARMY. Don't you think someone would leave troops to defend the fort while HIS ARMY (and not him) chase after the escapees???

Or: how do 5 or 6 elderly women survive in the desert without any home... What they ride around and eat nothing?!?!

It was STUPID. I saw the rating and I was stunned. My Uncle and I said the same thing: "No story..." Thunderdome (85) was WAY BETTER.

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For starter's, who do think

For starter's, who do think the movie's protagonist is? It's not Mad Max.

Second, great generals leading from behind is a modern concept. Society has devolved, so Joe Immortan must lead from the front, like the majority of great historic figures. Again, haven't seen the movie, so I can't vouch for his base defenses, but who does he have to fear while he is away?

You have to accept the premise that human life can be sustained in the wasteland in all of these movies and that these people have developed the necessary skill set to do so. It's not like there were farms in the second film or a believable infrastructure supporting Bartertown.

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I don't think George Miller

I don't think George Miller was shooting a film to win the next Best Writer/Screenplay Oscar or whatever. He wanted to thrill audiences. I just watched a short piece on the DP's filming technique, and it supports the idea that the film was mostly for spectacle.

http://io9.com/the-secret-of-mad-max-fury-roads-brilliance-its-all-i-170...

You want to be enthralled by a story instead, yeah you'd best be looking elsewhere. However "one star out of 10" doesn't do justice to the immense special effects, camera work, editing (a few hundred hours cut down to 120 minutes) and impressive stunt work that went into the film's production.

Although I happen to think the film had room for improvement, there's no denying that they created an incredible, exotic world in that film. I'd watch it again if I wanted a second helping of outstanding visuals. The sandstorm scene alone is one heck of a ride... And that's just the end of the first act.

You go into an epic action film expecting an epic drama, that's on you, not the film.

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"The movie has absolutely no story to it"

Well... same as most recent comic-based movies.

What did you expect? At least this one does not try to act as if it has a story.
It creates a world and atmosphere, and shows you some action.

So you're saying that MadMax (with 1 out of 10) is worse movie than something like this: http://www.imdb.com/chart/bottom ? Come on :)

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It's a hate/love movie maybe. I thought seeing it was a hell of a ride. I was speechless (like the actors in the movie). Even if the story is almost non-existent, I will recommend it.

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Well, crap. I won't be able

Well, crap. I won't be able to see the film anytime soon, but what I'm hearing from you guys about a lack of story clashed with so much of what I've heard about it. Looking into it, it turns out that Miller had written extensive back stories about the characters during the decades that the movie was in limbo, and I'd been fed a fair dose of that. I guess the stuff I was looking forward to seeing in the movie is going to be the premise for the comic books and tradebacks.

Still looking forward to the small details that Miller includes. One of my favorite parts in the second movie was when Lord Humungus opened his gun case, and we get a glimpse of a photo of a young serviceman and his wife along with a few military medals. That, and seeing the scarcity of ammunition at that point as the post-apocalyptic setting progressed from the previous movie. I still see him as a tremendously sympathetic antagonist.

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I guess 1 person on the

I guess 1 person on the internet had to hate it. I loved it. It was exactly what it should have been.

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Too much and not enough (IMHO)

Soulfinger wrote:
...Looking into it, it turns out that Miller had written extensive back stories about the characters during the decades that the movie was in limbo, and I'd been fed a fair dose of that...

That's why I feel he should have written THREE (3) books instead of making a movie. There is so much DETAIL but we get 0 explanations why they are there. Like why do the crazies spray SILVER PAINT on their mouths... And the link with Valhalla.

I guess why I rated it so low ... was because I was hoping the movie would be up there with "Thunderdome" with Mel Gibson and Tina Turner. I mean she even wrote/sang a song for the movie "We don't need another Hero."

This movie reminded me of "Waterworld" (a Kevin Costner movie).

Like the talk of the "Green Place" but it's gone and destroyed. Maybe if Furiosa had had a VISION (like thinking back to what it was like) that would have put more context on the place...

Details like that were omitted... Or like Mad Max has these visions - they say he is haunted by the dead and chased by the living... But there is no explanation as to why the little girl (who she was - how he failed to save her, etc.)

Note: Why I talk a lot about the "Green Place" is because this is the CLIMAX (or ANTICLIMAX) of the movie.

Update: I'll give the movie a better rating: 5 out 10 (based only on visual effects and the world/geography created). But I still DON'T recommend it... It's kind of like "Transformers" movies - where there is no real story - just action and Computer Graphics... I was expecting more from a George Miller movie. Oh well...

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I liked it

Maybe this thread should have had a spoilers warning.

I found it refreshing. I'm tired of seeing films that feel the need to explain everything in tedious detail.

Max is minding his own business when he gets sucked up into a strange closed world. Where a couple of people have invented rules and mythology to gain power and hold some remnant of civilisation together.

He doesn't bother trying to work it out or encourage 15 minute expositions from the people involved. He's not interested.

The chaos and confusion seem to fit.

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Well, 90% positive reaction

Well, 90% positive reaction from non-critics means it's not just reviewers. And I also preferred that the world was built without exposition (to me, exposition would have dumbed it down).

I would recommend it to anyone who enjoys action movies, as it is one giant chase scene.

The thread title should probably indicate spoilers.

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truekid games wrote:...I

truekid games wrote:
...I would recommend it to anyone who enjoys action movies, as it is one giant chase scene...

That's what disappointed me about the movie: it's JUST one giant chase scene. I was thinking that maybe she would find another city at the end of the desert... Something ... not just running back to the place they began. :(

truekid games wrote:
The thread title should probably indicate spoilers.

I added a warning at the beginning of the thread...

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Sorry questccg, but I'll have

Sorry questccg, but I'll have to go against you. Sorry BGDF if this is off topic.

Mad max is awesome. Yes 90% of the story is rolling on the road, and they still managed to put a story in it. That is a feat in it self. 98% on rotten tomatoe is a master piece.

Yes there are a huge amount of action scene, but there is no repetition through the whole movie. The enemies always come up with new creative attempts to stop the truck which itself is ingenious.

The movie is a piece of art. My GF who does not likes cars at all was impressed by the movie. Even my father and I who saw the old movies were impressed with it. Apparently they worked months to adjust the color of the image. The decoration in the constume and on the vehicles makes it a piece of art. The guitar player is just awesome and innovative. It's the new wardrum on wheels.

From a technical perspective, it is also a master piece. Filming that many cascade is a huge amount of work and should have cost a huge amount of money. I don't know th details but it would apparently be very complex to film.

Finally, even with all that action and straight forward story, it still makes you ask many question about how the world could look in the future. Do we really want to get there? SO the depth comes from the reflexion after watching the movie, not from the story of the movie itself.

So it seems that it has the elements to make a bad movie: Simple story, too much action, and believe me, I hate those movies. But it was done with such skill that it actually avoided the negative effects of those pitfall while using them.

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Something ... not just running back to the place they began.

I agree that this is my most deceiving part. As it feels that there is no progress.

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larienna wrote:...Sorry BGDF

larienna wrote:
...Sorry BGDF if this is off topic...

I agree that this is my most deceiving part. As it feels that there is no progress.

Don't worry this is in the "Water Cooler" section of the website. :D

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Quote:Don't worry this is in

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Don't worry this is in the "Water Cooler" section of the website. :D

The what! Ok so that is what this forum is used for.

Another thing, im many action movies the pacing is wrong. You generally are always stuck in action scene with little pause beetween them Examples of that includes Piraets of the carabeen and star wars 1-3.

But in mad max the pacing is good. There is enough downtime between the action scenes.

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I would rate it a C+/B- for

I would rate it a C+/B- for some of the flaws you mentioned but realize we are in the minority. People are just loving this movie to death. I did enjoy the practical effects quite a bit but the plot and character development were paper thin so there was no emotional punch for me. Here's hoping part 2 expands the story a bit.

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If you find the new Mad Max a

If you find the new Mad Max a bit one dimensional, you might try 'The Rover'. Similar themes, still a 'road movie', but completely different pace and character development.

Doesn't pass the Bechdel test though, which was also where Mad Max won some praise.

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Got to go somewhere!

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...Doesn't pass the Bechdel test though, which was also where Mad Max won some praise.

Like do I care that Mad Max: Fury Road appeals to the Feminists of the world?!?! Seriously so she's saving the imprisoned women from their captor. Not that I cared much about that aspect of the movie, WHAT I WANTED was to see "WHERE THEY WERE GOING TO GO!"

And the reply to that answer = "Back to where they came from..."

That's why I say the CLIMAX of the movie is an ANTICLIMAX.

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