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MAR
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Hello all,

I had a few interesting conversations earlier today that made me think about the realm of 3D games/ miniatures gaming. For those of you who play games with minis, what kind of game-play and/or to what level do you like to play? For example, do you prefer paper maps, or do you prefer to have models of buildings and props etc. to set up your battlefield with? Another question is what kinds of genres do you like?

Thanks for the insight!

-MAR

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Oddly enough, no one

Oddly enough, no one responded to this topic yet.

I love wargaming.
But most of them are simply little squared on a hexagon map. That is what I am used too. That is how I play.

A&A has miniatures. I love that game as well. But the number of units is displayed with chips. I got something similar for my own wargame.

While I would love to have a good looking terrain and miniatures. The strategy would be mostly lost that I like to see and feel in such a wargame.

So I think I like it flat and easy where it is possible to have a lot going on.

MAR
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X3M,

Yes, I did find it strange that no one replied, I mean there has to be many wargamers or miniature themed game players around. I have played A&A, Star Wars Minis, Memoir 44, etc. I like the flat grid map for quick play and set up, but sometimes I think that the terrain and map/ modeling is half the fun for many people, I assumed at least. Because I didn't know, I was wondering if I could get anyone's input on that topic. What is your own wargame? What kind of games do you like? There is one game that we have been playing around with/ developing for a year or so that we really like. As you say, to us, the draw of the game is strategy (and we wanted more complexity than risk or A&A). This wasn't my intent on the topic, but oh well :)

-MAR

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Wargames, there are so many!

Well, my intention was not to change the subject. Sorry.

If people read it right.
They should read that you are asking what they like.
A wargame with miniatures is a given in your case.
But do they prefer a flat surface or a 3d surface?
That is the question, right?

Just like how you said it. The quick set up for play is what I think, most people like.
Unless you have your terrain in the basement, all set up.
Or, the 3d terrain is a simple placement on a table. A rock here, a building there.

I think that space to store the game, is also a limiting factor for most.

If you are designing a war game. First make sure the rules/mechanics work. Only then see in you can have miniatures and/or 3d terrain.

If your mechanics require 3d terrain like in warhammer, then you have to start from designing some pieces and terrain first.

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Wargames, there are so many!

Thanks for the reply, it verified some of my thoughts on the matter. No, you didn't switch up the subject, I did when I digressed and began talking about a wargame that I was helping develop. You are correct, my question was just wondering what people liked and didn't in regard to 3D terrain, and to what extent. Well, at least thank you for replying :) Space is definitely a big factor with most people, as you point out. Time also.

Thanks

MAR

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MAR wrote: began talking

MAR wrote:
began talking about a wargame that I was helping develop. You are correct, my question was just wondering what people liked and didn't in regard to 3D terrain, and to what extent. Well, at least thank you for replying :) Space is definitely a big factor with most people, as you point out. Time also.
MAR

Feel free to talk about the wargame that you help working on. Every little detail can be discussed.

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I'm not a big miniature

I'm not a big miniature wargamer myself but I'll try to answer based on the people I know.

In my experience most miniature wargamers play with models and props. Even for their 2D mapping needs they often either use fancy mousepad-type pieces, thick cardboard backed tiles or a handful 3D terrain features (Hills, rivers, etc)

People who buy mini's often are willing to spend on making them look even better. (Besides, Line of Sight Rules often require the 3D effect)

But it's important to note that most that I know also only own a handful of terrain pieces. Maybe 1-2 buildings, a hill, a couple rivers/roads, and a few trees that they can mix and match every game.

That said, there are a few specific areas where 2D maps are commonly used.

First up, BOARD GAMES, where the map itself divides the battlefield into tiles and it's pretty much a requirement. Generally, people prefer thicker cardboard backing on the map, but traditional chit wargamers do reluctantly use paper.

Second, Dungeons and Dragons is an interesting exception. The modern "Tactical movement and combat" design is basically built for playing on a 2D grid and most players use it that way. In these cases, most use the washable battle mats that they can draw on... though there is a small market for tiles that can build a map.

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Thanks for your insight. I

Thanks for your insight. I myself have a few games that require miniatures and a flat 2D map, but often thought that many gamers that are really into miniature wargaming of some kind would probably like some kind of 3D terrain. Is 3D terrain sought after, from your experience, or is it just a convenient luxury if acquired?

Also, in response to the question above, the game that I am helping with is a wargame, but does not require miniatures or 3D terrain- I was just curious about it. I will make a thread about our wargame soon I think, and will let you know. Thanks for the input!

-MAR

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