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gamemaker-KD
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Gamemaker-KD here, just want to say hi to everyone, I just joined this week. Wish I knew about this site earlier. Been making games for over 20 years and trying to get them on market for last 15 years. Long hard road. Games played at the table is my passion. I have two games coming out in 2005, can't wait.

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Welcome aboard! Where have you been? Just kidding, I'm glad you could finally make it. What types of games do you design? Are you able to discuss the games you have coming out next year? We'd love to hear about them. Also, if can think of any ways to improve the community, please let me or another administrator know! We are always looking for ways to improve the site.

-Darke

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Hi and welcome! Can you tell us a little about yourself and some of your games that have been published or are forthcoming? Always good to hear from a fellow game maker!

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Welcome....

And I hope you enjoy the site! It is amazing how much I have learned from being on the site, and I hope that you feel the same down the road.

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Thanks for the reply. hey darkehorse I think I got this post reply thing now. First game due out jan 2005, title Scooby doo where are you,Travel Game. This is a card game using basic math with no number higher than ten. A fun way to enjoy math. Second game I'll be able to talk about after I go to the fall toy fair oct .19, will see the finished version than. this one is a board game. taking two more games with me to show.

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gamemaker-KD wrote:
Thanks for the reply. hey darkehorse I think I got this post reply thing now. First game due out jan 2005, title Scooby doo where are you,Travel Game. This is a card game using basic math with no number higher than ten. A fun way to enjoy math. Second game I'll be able to talk about after I go to the fall toy fair oct .19, will see the finished version than. this one is a board game. taking two more games with me to show.

Wow! This is a gold mine. Can you tell us how you went about (or how the publisher) obtaining a license to use Scooby Doo? Also do you predominantly design only kids games?

-Darke

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Using the license of scooby doo was the idea of the good people at Briarpatch inc. I did send this game out with everyone in mind, kind of like the way uno has young and not so young alike. And when they told me they wanted to put a licence on it, being so excited about signing my first game I wasn't going to disagree, then when they told me the great SCOOBY would be my new partner I was going to do a back flip, but my knees might not have helped on the landing.age (42). Most of my games are for family fun, some preschool and up and acouple 10 and up. Today I did get to look around this site. A much needed site with so many game inventer out here. You can count on my support

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Congratulations! Your experience will come in handy! There have been quite a few posts lately regarding licenses and intellectual property.

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Most of the license topics seem like the designer is intentionally building a game around some piece of well-known intellectual property. This case seems a bit different, where Briarpatch saw an opportunity to use a license they could access and decided to paint a game already accepted in Scooby colors after the core mechanics (well, probably all of the mechanics) were laid out and submitted.

It's an interesting way to go about it, and for all those light, themed games out there, it makes perfect sense. Whether correct or not, I see the heavier licensed games (LOTR) as more of a commissioned job, or at least permissions, royalties, etc. were worked out well before the designers started designing (but again, probably through the publishers first, who then contact designers with previous experience with the company and appropriate mechanical tastes).

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Welcome to the board!

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Been making games for over 20 years and trying to get them on market for last 15 years.

Is this Scooby Doo game your first to be published?

Its great to see that staying the course on the "long hard road" can pay off for us non-published designers. You give guys like me hope.

Thanks

gamemaker-KD
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Thanks for the welcome, Trickydicky. Yes this is my first game to get published. Hey Fos. companies do want fresh and new idea's but most are scared to go out on a limb, they feel safer with a licensed product attached. Alot of smaller companies are going after contracts with well known franchises in mind, (movies,etc) which makes it harder on us inventors of original concepts. I don't mind using my game play with a licensed product, but I rather have my own game and characters make it to market if you know what I mean.

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gamemaker-KD wrote:
...I rather have my own game and characters make it to market if you know what I mean.

Really? I personally wouldn't care much if the theme or the characters of a design of mine would get changed by the publisher. Then again, I'm mostly a "mechanics first" guy.

- René Wiersma

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Well I would have to say that no matter what the publisher wanted to change, if they wanted to publish one of my games, any change that gets the game out into the public works for me!

It is great to keep the game as close to the original design/theme as possible, but think about it, your game would actually be published!

I dont think I could pass up being published just because of some requested/required changes, would anyone pass up this chance to be published?

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Hey Zzzzz, any change that gets my games into the public works for me to. But they (the games) are our babies and I would love to see them stand up on their own. this morning I got a great phone call on another board game of mine. they want to change the theme from Zoo babies to robots, and I told them I have no problem with that. I have some board game that I have taken another route for trying to keep some of my games without change. I wrote a adventure book based on one of my games and after the book is out I'll show the game again. Book due out in nov. 2004. But for everybody out there, if a company bites on one of your games by all means let them have their way as long as it's respectful. Because it is so hard to get out on the market. does everyone know about ---www.toy-tia.org

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