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Axe
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I was pretty amazed when, last year, I came across the Myers Briggs test. Apparently I was the only person on the planet to have never heard of it. I came out an ENTP extreme. Top profession choice: inventor. Go figure, I thought I was just a psycho. SO, whats everyone else here?

Any other ENTPs floating around?

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I'm an NP...extreme on those two, but very close to the border on the I/E and T/F axes. I guess this means that it's really hard to get me to start talking, but just as hard to get me to shut up. Also that I think too much about what I feel, yet feel too strongly about what I think.

zaiga
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According to a little online test I just did I'm an INTJ. Not too sure about that J myself though...

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You’re not the only one who has ever heard of it.

I think these tests are dubious and best used for entertainment purposes much like palm reading. The idea that from a few questions you can categorize the whole human race into a handful for types seems like a vast over simplification.

With that being said I took the test for fun and was rated as ENTJ also known as the Field Marshal personality.

"We think in generalities, but we live in detail" - Alfred North Whitehead.

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There are 10 types of people in the world: those who understand binary, and those who do not.

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Here is another vote for INTJ. INTJ's are supposed to be rare, less than 1% of the population.

Hmmm.... I wonder if there is one type that is most prevalent among game designers? Also, maybe some types are more suited for game design then others. So far everyone that has responded is N (intuitive over sensing), and T(thinking over feeling). The following is a description of a sub-group of the meyers-briggs types, the Rational NTs.

RATIONAL NTs, being ABSTRACT in communicating and UTILITARIAN in implementing goals, can become highly skilled in STRATEGIC ANALYSIS. Thus their most practiced and developed intelligent operations tend to be marshalling and planning (NTJ organizing), or inventing and configuring (NTP engineering). And they would if they could be wizards in one of these forms of rational operation. They are proud of themselves in the degree they are competent in action, respect themselves in the degree they are autonomous, and feel confident of themselves in the degree they are strong willed. Ever in search of knowledge, this is the "Knowledge Seeking Personality" -- trusting in reason and hungering for achievement. They are usually pragmatic about the present, skeptical about the future, solipsistic about the past, and their preferred time and place are the interval and the intersection. Educationally they go for the sciences, avocationally for technology, and vocationally for systems work. Rationals tend to be individualizing as parents, mindmates as spouses, and learning oriented as children. Rationals are very infrequent, comprising as few as 5% and no more than 7% of the population.

Axe
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I don't know, I've done a little digging, this test is used by alot of corporations. Apparently they use it in job placement positions.

BTW its a good idea to take a couple different tests at different web sites. They seem to vary a little. BUt, on all of them I come out the same ENTP. Even when there heavily mixed. Since I'm answering the questions, I'd give it more value then astrology or palmestry.

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Yep, I'm an INTJ. I don't know how much credence I give to this particular way of categorizing people; in some ways it seems it might be useful in understanding how other people's minds work, and in other ways it does sound a bit like astrology. Read the description of any of the 16 types, and there's a tendency to pick out the familiar and/or admirable parts and see yourself. And, like astrology, there are not many different types so the descriptions are rather vague.

But I'll admit that the descriptions given of the INTJ type do sound a lot like me, if not 100% accurate.

I note with amusement that the INTJ type is labeled as "Mastermind" at one Web site. While it's true that I have built a gigantic, futuristic underground secret base staffed by hundreds of loyal, lethal minions determined to make my dreams of world domination come true, I think that "mastermind" may be overstating the case as I don't feel I'm making a very good job of it. We're way behind schedule.

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I'm INFJ, which I guess qualifies me as the BGDF's token bleeding heart. :)

(I'm just *barely* 'F', though, at 12% preference, so I hope I can stay).

K.

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INTP here, with a strong NT (particularly the N).

M-B is a nice vocabulary for talking about personality, thinking, and learning traits. Unlike, say astrology, it's a descriptive rather than proscriptive system. You are what you are, it's just trying to describe you in a coherent framework.

The other interesting thing about it is that it while it describes your natural tendencies (what you learned first in life), everyone is ideally supposed to learn to utilise the skills and avoid the weaknesses of all the types as they mature. People who have pushed themselves to adapt and learn new things are often really hard to characterise by the time they are 30-40. For instance, I can seem like an E or an F or a J at times (still don't think I fool anyone into thinking I'm a S).

Of course there are plenty of people who find the whole idea insulting and also those who will say M-B is a lot more rigourous and proscriptive than I'm described (to each his own). It was at least created by some rather insightful academics as a descriptive tool.

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I'd never heard of it but I just took the test.

Apparently, I'm INTJ as well. Heavy on the IT, moderate on the NJ.

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I'm generally quite sceptical about this stuff, but it worries me slightly when they are regularly so damn accurate...

ENTP if your interested :D

#Phil

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So far, everyone has an N (I think). Thats very interesting.

Also, not the frequency of these personality types. ENTP is like 2% of the general population, INFJ is like 1%, and the others are on the rare side as well (I just took a look at several sites and how rare each is).
So, is this drive to be inventive relatively rare.

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I took that test years ago and can't remember what I was. :(

One thing about these types of test is that they only test for certain traits. That is they test for A,B,C and D. Therefor if you fit into E,F,G,... then you must be cramed (like a square peg in a round hole) into one of the existing categories. This means that the tests can not determine anything that they do not test for (it sounds obvious but it is an extremely common failing).

I have taken many of these multiple choice personality type tests and have always wanted to choose option E (out of A,B,C,D) not because of some mischievious reson (although it is always tempting :D) but because none of the other options are apropreate (hmm does this mean that I have no personality? :D).

As for using them in potential employee testing. Well they can reveal certain personality traits that may be benificial or harmful in the workplace, but they can not be used to make a blanket assesment of all personalities. They even used biometric (not in the modern sens but mesure the distance between the eyes and such) to determine personality and fitness for jobs, so just because they use this now and they claim that it works (they did that for bimetric personaily too) is no recomendation.

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(E)NTP (Actually equal on E-I but E wins tie-breakers)

One thing I like about this profiling approach is the discussion on secondary and tertiary profiles. For example, I often start off with introverted thinking, but then then to follow it up with extroverted thinking.

- Bill

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Sorry for breaking the mood!

What the Hell are you talking about?

ENTJ INTL NTMP, what is it a new communication code?

From what I could see, it seem like some sort of interest test generally useful to know what kind of job you like.

I don't know about this test you are talking about ( can we pass it somewhere on the net ), But I know I have passed 2 other test.

The first was the "Holland" code which has 6 categories :
Realist, Investigator, Artistic, Social, Buisiness, Conventional.
When the test is over you get a different level rating. I think my best categories was R,A,S and my worst was B.

The second test had 5 or 6 categories each with 2 elements that oppose each other. You can either be on one side, on the other or on neither side. If my memory is good, the categories where :

Solitary <-> Work in group
Creative <-> Routine
Objects <-> People
Production <-> Prestige
I don't remember the others.

I don't dislike these test but I think it should be more used as a guide line than using it to classify people. Human being will always be unique.

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As usual, a great intro is provided by the Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myers-Briggs_Type_Indicator

Looks like my previous statement about it being developed by academics is wrong (though there have been many academic studies of or with it).

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A few test sights that seem ok.
Yeah, this is only one of many tests, but because so many people have taken it, its useful to see how you compare. It explains alot if your feeling like an odd ball...at least that was my experiance. :-)

A book called "Do What You Are" based on this testing method.

http://www.personalitytype.com/

http://similarminds.com/embj.html To take the Jung / Myers Briggs test

tp://www.personalitypage.com has some good descriptions

http://www.humanmetrics.com/cgi-win/JTypes2.asp A good free test

http://www.jedigirl.com/www/personality_types/type_sphere.html Wacked!

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Axe wrote:
A few test sights that seem ok.

Add to that list the "Strengthsfinder" test from the book "Now Find Your Strengths" (https://www.strengthsfinder.com/).

Unfortunately, you can't take the test without buying the book, but you can get the book at a good discount these days (it's almost 5 years old, I think).

This test has two major advantages:
1) It was developed by the Gallup polling people, based on information culled from over 2 million interviews -- so there's a lot of good statistics involved.

2) It doesn't define you based on typical personality traits. The "bins" into which it sorts you have less to do with personality archetypes than the way your particular personality comes together to form your strengths. It's very illuminating!

If anyone here has taken it, I'd be interested to know your results. Mine were Learner, Achiever, Connectedness, Intellection, and Empathy. I'm guessing that Intellection will be a common thread amongst BGDFers.

K.

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One thing missing from all these tests is a measurement of self esteem. This plays a major role in how you appear to others and yourself. I know several people who thought of themselves as interverts, looked like interverts, but were infact extreme extraverts (just were afraid to talk, from a life time of being torn down). Anyhow, keep that in mind when your looking over your results.

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Cantos wrote:
Looks like my previous statement about it being developed by academics is wrong (though there have been many academic studies of or with it).

I wouldn't say that. Jung was one of the founders of modern psychology. The work that followed Myers Briggs Keresley are all based on Jungs work, and just because its been torn down by academics doesn't mean its not scientific. Most complaints suggest that it over simplifies and pigeon holes. But at some point its critics all do the same thing (just with different tests (often bearing there names).

A good habit to get into is, always question the pack. They are usually following each other in mob fashion repeating each other in a lame attempt to legitimize there work, regardless of the truth. Part of the reason its so difficult to see paradigm shifts in science; particularly social sciences.

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Yup. I'd tend to agree. A similar effect can be observed currently with research into what's called "Emotional Intelligence" - in general academia doesn't like it because it doesn't fit into their pigeon-holes. That doesn't make it instantly valid, of couse ;-)

Myers-Briggs is merely one of a whole bunch of ways of taking what are generally observed patterns of human behaviour and fitting them together into a consistent schema. I rate it mostly due to its broad use and general simplicity (although I agree that it suffers from this in some ways - but no more so than any other test of its type.)

Anyway, I'm an INTJ iirc.

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I had a friend with a book with this test in it, and a discription of all of the types.

I am an INTJ (Scientist type), and the book said that this type is about 0.6% of the population. A lot of it sounds like me, I was strongly NT, which seems to be a common trait among us game designers.

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Axe wrote:
I wouldn't say that. Jung was one of the founders of modern psychology. The work that followed Myers Briggs Keresley are all based on Jungs work, and just because its been torn down by academics doesn't mean its not scientific. Most complaints suggest that it over simplifies and pigeon holes. But at some point its critics all do the same thing (just with different tests (often bearing there names).

True. Though many (including me) don't read Jung in the same way.

Academia is quite hard on alternate views at times, often for sound reasons but sometimes just out of fashion (I'm an academic, BTW). Of course M-B isn't falsifiable so (according to Popper) it isn't scientifically valid.

Personally, I just think of M-B as an neutral, descriptive, insightful vocabulary and framework for discussion of personalities. Used that way it's been fairly useful to me.

I wonder what types of games are typically liked by the different M-B types? And more relevantly to M-B who the differences in thinking effect learning and playing a game?

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Q: "I wonder what types of games are typically liked by the different M-B types? And more relevantly to M-B who the differences in thinking effect learning and playing a game?"

Now this is an excellent question. Infact, it never occured to me to use this kind of thing for product development. I see immediate advantages to target marketing as well as design (if such things as color and design likes and dislikes exist with M-B). In this case, I could care less if its "testable" only that it really works.

BTW, I've given this test to about 50 people besides myself since I discovered it last year. None of them were into PD or academics. Of all those tested I did not encounter a single ENTP, and only 1 NT at all. So, we are a screw anyway.

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Ya know, maybe it's just me, but I feel that these types of tests suffer from my natural tendency to try to fit my answers to the type that I think I want to be perceived as. Is there a known term for this, or am I just weird?

Mitch

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Challenger, a well crafted test for M-B is so jumbled and so odd that its nearly impossible to figure out how your answer will effect your outcome.

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umm wow this is weird am I the only ISTP?

or perhaps the only one that really cares enough to state such

--"mechanic" -- "Crafter artisian" that would explain the method of game creation I've been going through

heh cool I'm 1 in 10% of the general population

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TruMobius wrote:
heh cool I'm 1 in 10% of the general population

Well, since there are 16 possible combinations, it means that on average one combination will make up about 6% of the population. A group that makes up 10% of the general population is one of the bigger groups. But don't let that put you down! You are still a unique individual... just like anybody else.

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zaiga wrote:
. But don't let that put you down! You are still a unique
individual... just like anybody else.

That reminds me of a tidbit of wisdom I came up with a while back, "You may be one in a million, but that just means there's 6 thousand just like you!"

Heh.
-Darke

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now that I've been knocked around a bit

I'd just like to say that "on average" doesn't count for this for the simple matter that a previously mentiond group was 1% of the general pop while I found out that an entirly different group made up around 40-50% of the world pop...now unless my facts are wrong which they could be ( indeed saying my findings are facts is a definate excuse to discount them enough)
10% is not all that bad...but I'm not all that great at math so this could still be a larger portion than Ioriginally thought

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