Brainstorming: need some ideas

Hmmmm

Fans of the :

Pretty Boy
Bad Boy
Geek/Wimp
Cheater
Champion
Masked Gladiator
Flashy (clothes or moves)

Just a few rough ideas...

How about having the different characters gain support for fans when they do certain things...

So say it's wrestlers instead of gladiators. And say one character is a big cheater, another is a showoff.

The cheater might gain 'support' (fans cheer) whenever they do something dirty or underhanded. Doing so would be risky (because the ref might catch it and penalize you or something) but increasing your Cheering might be worth it. Maybe you can do some special moves only when you increase your fans cheering to a certain level.

The showoff might similarly increase cheering by posing or taunting the opponent. This isn't risky like cheating, but is costly in another way (you're giving up an action to taunt). You might also get some Cheer by doing gratuitous over the top moves (maybe climbing on the ropes and diving onto someone rather than just pinning them- an option which gives them a chance to roll out of the way or something).

So the game would be about doing moves (they should somehow cost- maybe adding to a fatigue value which once full keeps you from acting) to increase your Fan support. Fatigue level and fan support can control access to certain moves.

The point of the game would probably be to 'pin' the other player, and depending on the characters involved there could be some minimum level of crowd support you have to have and maybe a minimum fatigue level they have to be at (where attacks cost you fatigue but 'inflict' fatigue as well perhaps).

And/or there could be a general Crowd indicator, where instead of inflicting fatigue the attacks move the crowd indicator your way- Crowd indicator not to be confused with each player's fans.

I sorta rambled there, does it make sense? What do you think?

- Seth

Sedjtroll,

I think you're really on to something here. What I envision is each player having a certain wrestler card that has various moves on it: offensive and defensive moves. Some moves can only performed as a series. For example, a body slam must be followed first by a grab and then a pick up. The card would indicate with arrows what moves can be done when followed by others. As such, certain later moves may be more or less difficult to acheive but cause a lot more damage (maybe cause fatigue to the opponent -- if full on fatigue then super fatigue where 3 strikes and the opponent falls down exhausted). The current move a player just performed could be kept track with a pawn or something. Each move for a particular wrestler would have a success rating.

Each wrestler would have a fatigue limit rating.

Also when some successful moves are done, the player gains crowd cheer points. Or if the opponent falls for a bad move then he looses crowd points. Certain moves will also have a requirement of crowd points to get to their super move.

Wrestlers would have on their cards also defensive moves, that a player can only play if grabbed, or held or pinned. Like the offensive moves, a success role will break a grab or pin, this disallowing the grabbing or pinning player playing the next successive move. As indicated, a wrestler at the top of the card would have a pawn maybe for the wrestler's current state (laying down, grabbed, ready, back showing).

If you keep the wrestlers varied and a neat set of moves, I could see different strategies being used.

Also obviously some moves, would have no success rolls to it and are automatic like egging on the crowd which raises crowd cheer, however, it may put the player in a more vunerable state (back turned). Another maybe a strictly non-agressive resting move (to reduce fatigue).

Great stuff. If you want to flesh out this idea anymore contact me. I think you may be on to something really neat.

--DarkDream

It seems like we're answering questions that haven't been asked yet. The original question was "Do you have any ideas for fan groups?" I can't think of anything particularly interesting in this regard (cheater, flashy plays, massive hits v. numerous "sneaky" probing attacks, one-hit KOs, etc) so I'll jump on the bandwagon and add my own impromptu thoughts on this game.

All fighting games, like most games of other types, rely on hidden information to add an element of bluff and chance. One very common element is to give each player a hand of cards. Every player is in the dark as to what each other player is holding, and must overcome this through clever play and intuition.

But here's another approach. Suppose this game plays out as Darkdream and sedjtroll have described - players take turns playing cards with different effects (example: knockdown), which make other cards available (kick him while he's down). But as an added factor, the attacker conceals a number of counters which represent the effort he throws behind the attack. This is an unknown quantity to the defender, who must choose to defend using her own counters and/or cards to block the attack. So the attacker could bluff - maybe he needs to grapple his opponent, but instead tries to knock her down instead. The defender doesn't know any better, so she blocks the attack with more counters than she really needs, weakening herself and giving the attacker a golden opportunity to grapple next turn. Does that make sense?