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Mon, 07/18/2005 - 23:34
JackDarwid
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I can't resist to use a character token in my second game, and I've tired many things, and at last I have two options I like the most.

Consideration :
1. this is a solo game, only one token is needeed (a token for the main character)
2. the ease to make : this is a free print and play game
3.the ease to pick up and move : the gameplay consist of a lot of movement from one location card to another location card

Question : for a character token, which one would you prefer :
- a cardboard (I'm not sure what this one called, a cardboard?) : a two picture of a character (full body), fold in the middle and ta-da the folded paper can stand (I've tried with many versions with it's base, but it's just simpler this way, no need of glue). But the maker should print the cardboard in a rather thick paper
- a token, a circle token with the character's head, maybe 2-3 cm (1 inch?) wide. The maker will be able to print quickly and glue it to a coin (one or both side of the coin).

Or, any other input ?

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Tue, 07/19/2005 - 03:00
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dete
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Cardboard vs Token

hey Jack,

card board = I think like miniatures or Chess pieces,
easy to grab and move since it sticks up, good to have
for a board game with lots of other pieces that can be
knocked down.

token = good for travel type board games because
of ez storage. good for a smaller uncluttered board game.

I'm thinking for your game, a small card board piece folded
in half and you can just use it like a paper clip on the card
it's suppose to be on. folded in half or it has a little slit to clamp
the card. Maybe not even necessary,
for my card game inspired by yours, I just made the characters
as cards. everything is all cards for MOGAB.

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Tue, 07/19/2005 - 06:09
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hpox
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Cardboard vs Token

Flat token, chit.

I find the folded cardboard really cheesy.

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Wed, 07/20/2005 - 01:07
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JackDarwid
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Cardboard vs Token

Thanks for the reply (any other opinions are welcome)...

I've tried using a card as the character, but since there's only one character (too bad, but IMHO that each IOD2 game will still be different enough without multi-characters), the character card will be too big to move from location to location, the character card will cover almost all of the location card (since the size is the same).
So, I'm stuck either with cardboard or token for the character.

Hpox : "I find the folded cardboard really cheesy."
Yes, that's what I see, if I use a folded cardboard (no 'base', just fold the picture and the cardboard will stand), the 'inside' part of the cardboard will be shown ! And that's not good. One option is to make a cardboard with base, with a little glue-ing (I've tried the 'a little slit to clamp the card ' version, but somehow it won't stand easily because the base is not flat.

In my playtesting, I use 1 glass bead, and it works very well (but it is better to have a character picture somehow than the plain pink glass bead) :)

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Wed, 07/20/2005 - 05:13
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TrollBasher
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Cardboard vs Token

I'd go with the flat token.

However, why not give the player a choice and create a card that can be slotted into a plastic base (which I'm sure plenty of players have) if they have a minature collection.

Just a thought. Good luck.

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Wed, 07/20/2005 - 09:04
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Anonymous
Cardboard vs Token

I agree that the folded cardboard tokens are cheesy, but for a print it yourself game, that's the best way to go. I wouldn't assume that the person assembling the game has a plastic base to use. Include artwork for the piece that can be cut and assembled for use without anything else. If the player has bases, they will most likely know how to modify the token to use it with the base.

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Wed, 07/20/2005 - 10:28
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OutsideLime
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Cardboard vs Token

The folded cardstock thingie... we've always called them standees, but I'm not sure where it came from or if we made the word up...

Try the cardstock standee, but have the player tape or glue it down to a coin... that way you get the verticality you need for easy picking up & moving around, you get to do a nice character graphic instead of squeezing it onto a tiny token, you don't see the inside of the standee, and the coin base means that the standee won't get knocked around or blown over easily.... and everyone has a coin and some tape/glue lying around....

~Josh

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Wed, 07/20/2005 - 10:46
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larienna
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Cardboard vs Token

I know that there is a thread somewhere with pictures that talked about this subject. I remember to have seen some sort of paper paper clip used as a base or standing figures. If you want thicker tokens, you can use foam core board and stick the token on them. It will make tokens around 1/4 inch thick.

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Thu, 07/21/2005 - 15:46
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dete
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Cardboard vs Token

wow Larienna,
the paper clip idea would work perfect with Outsidelime's pic

you can also do one that is simillar to that, except the
bottom flaps are bigger and they are folded inward
to make a triangle, there is a horizontal slit that goes across
both bottom flaps so they hook. So you Token is a triangle
shape that will stand and not look so messy.
can any1 understand what I'm talkin about?

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Wed, 07/27/2005 - 13:52
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Anonymous
yes i understand

yes i understand . i have seen that form of style before in some old style games.

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Thu, 07/28/2005 - 01:31
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JackDarwid
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Cardboard vs Token

Thank you everyone for the input.

After considering everything (and playtesting the game some more), I
choose to take a circle counter over cardboard, because :
- it's easier to make
- easier to bring than a cardboard (keeping the 'compact game'
spirit)
- covering less part of a card
So, the counter problem is solved (for now).

(Feel free to discuss more about cardboard/token here).

And, the Island Of D 2 : The Shadow Of Dawn is released today.
Have fun !

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Wed, 08/03/2005 - 21:18
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Qundar
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Man oh man!

Hi,

I'm new here, and in just 15 minutes I've learned a great deal! Taping it to a coin. Wow, great idea. I'll have to remember that one. I've had problems figuring out that one before.

Live long and prosper, Qundar out.

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