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Dual Dice - Multi-Purpose Designer dice Pre-Launch

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Click here to view the Pre-Launch Page of "Dual Dice":

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/questccg/dual-dice-multi-purpose-de...

The KS campaign will Go-Live in early November ... However we hope to interest some people in being NOTIFIED as to the Official Launch. These dice have been kept in much secrecy ... And I just configured the Pre-Launch page TODAY!

I will be creating a BGDF.com Banner for this KS... Soon. Maybe as early as this weekend.

If you like DICE and are looking for something DIFFERENT ... You'll be amazed at how "Designer" these FUNCTIONAL dice look and how simple it is to use them both as Standard d6s and other distributions and probabilities...

Cheers all!

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Looks like they are still

Looks like they are still kept secret?

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Yes ... I will reveal the "Designs" on Go-Live Day!

Just trying to build-up some "HYPE" and "SURPRISE" before I show "all my cards" (lol)! The PLAN to Officially Launch is early November... So that's a bit of detail that has not been specified ALREADY! So you heard that FIRST here on BGDF.com!

As I don't know who signed-up ... Only the TOTAL COUNT which as of NOW we have five (5) people interested... I'm trying to get to 10 ... Visible by ALL of the PUBLIC.

Cheers.

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Sharing some information

I figured out that there are a few good channels besides BGDF.com to publicize the future KS Campaign. As such I have posted on BGG (Board Game Geek) here:

Board Game Geek Thread

And in addition to this, I also posted on Reddit too on the crowdfunding thread here:

Reddit Thread

If anyone knows of other places (besides Facebook) to advertise the up and coming KS campaign, please feel free to SHARE your insight!

Cheers.

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Love for some more support ... We are...

Still under "10" people waiting to be notified. If any of you could be so nice to hit the NOTIFICATION button ... That would be GREATLY appreciated.

I've got some other people who I have asked to get involved and we may see another 8 or so people part of the notification process.

As I have mentioned these dice are "other worldly" meaning that their inception came from the distant lands of dreams! More of the story to the origination of these dice will be available from the KS page after the Go-Live. I don't want to spoil the surprise... So enough for now. Cheers!

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We've hit 10 followers and the count is visible...

If you want to help us out... Click NOTIFY and sit back for your Go-Live notification that will arrive in your e-mail inbox when we OFFICALLY LAUNCH the Dual Dice KS Campaign (in early November).

Cheers to all those who started this Top 10 Count... You're all SUPER and you all know who you are!

Fantastic in the first 48 hours ... We've gone from none to being VISIBLE.

Feel free to join us in this Pre-Launch to build up some HYPE and MYSTERY.

Cheers!

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If there was some kind of

If there was some kind of information about what it is there would be a higher chance that anyone would click.

I am a tiny bit curious about what the dice are, for the maths, but confused what the purpose of buying a set would be.

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Hello, I hit the notify me on

Hello,
I hit the notify me on launch button, but I made it for you, not for the dice.

If you accept a piece of advice, trying to get hype based on a question mark is not going to work. Feel free to browse all other dice in the upcoming category, they are all showing off how the dice will look.
Nobody will steal your idea.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/studiokurahon/all-or-nothing-dice?r...
These guys here are doing a d20 which only has 20 or 1 as value, everybody could "steal" that, and have the game crafter print it...but nobody will do, they'll wait the KS, support an idea they like and also benefit from the lower price coming from a bigger print.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lenpolygon/dultimate-a-multifunctio...
These guys have an idea not too far from yours...and they never kept their design secret, I have seen this design months ago when they were showing it off on Reddit and getting feedback/comments while gauging the interest. They raised 61 k and have other 16 days to go.
If you want to get people excited about your project share your excitement with them. Post about the dice on reddit, bgg and fb and I mean about the dice, not about the KS campaign.

Even in the unlikely scenario in which you get subscribers based on the "?", they would be curious people who want to check what you are offering. The conversion of those people to actual backers will be extremely low, as the page is somewhat not directed as those who are most likely to back it, but just at those who are overall more curious.

Hope this helps, if you need anything for dice manufacturing I recently got quotes from 6 companies.
Cheers,
Antonio

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I'm sharing information slowly on the boards...

pelle wrote:
If there was some kind of information about what it is there would be a higher chance that anyone would click.

That's why I am sharing information on Reddit, BGG and BGDF.com. Just not all at once... A bit of information here-and-there!

pelle wrote:
I am a tiny bit curious about what the dice are, for the maths, but confused what the purpose of buying a set would be.

Remember that the description says: "Compatible with your average d6s". That means that the dice can be used as a plain old standard d6s. And no it's not like those "dUltimate" dice which many people have complained about on Reddit... I've read some of the comments: "Dice are too busy", "If I roll it, it will roll forever" or "The information is too complicated", etc. My "Designer" dice are VERY Practical and very easy to understand. They roll like normal d6s do... You can take ANY game and just swap out the OLD d6s with Dual Dice d6s and play normally.

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It's a FIRST on Kickstarter I believe...

terzamossa wrote:
I hit the notify me on launch button, but I made it for you, not for the dice.

Thank you Antonio... Every person who clicks the NOTIFY is a blessing for me. I am deeply appreciative.

terzamossa wrote:
If you accept a piece of advice, trying to get hype based on a question mark is not going to work.

No worries... It's a marketing strategy. It's only a NOTIFICATION it's not at all about Backing. I'd just like there to be some MYSTERY and "excitement" so that when people see the dice they will be like: "Huh??? Holy smokes ... That is so cool!"

terzamossa wrote:
Feel free to browse all other dice in the upcoming category, they are all showing off how the dice will look.

That's cool and all ... But I'm trying to be different too... So while everyone is showing off their dice... I'm keeping mine a bit of a secret until the Go-Live sometime in early November.

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Nobody will steal your idea.

I'm not worried about stealing the idea. The KS is done and will Go-Live, I already have all my quotes and everything is working out. Shipping is a bit of a b!tch ... Because it is very high ... Higher than the price of making the dice... Seriously!

terzamossa wrote:
These guys here are doing a d20 which only has 20 or 1 as value, everybody could "steal" that, and have the game crafter print it...but nobody will do, they'll wait the KS, support an idea they like and also benefit from the lower price coming from a bigger print.

I understood... Like I said I'm not worried about stealing the idea. I do have "The Game Crafter" prototype dice ... And will be delivering those to a local Game Reviewer so that they can make video of the dice and share some of their thoughts.

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These guys have an idea not too far from yours... and they never kept their design secret, I have seen this design months ago when they were showing it off on Reddit and getting feedback/comments while gauging the interest. They raised 61 k and have other 16 days to go.

Well it's all about First Try. I think my Dual Dice are a FIRST that is keeping the "Design" SECRET or at least until the Campaign is Live. I've never seen that and that to me is also a FIRST. So this "?" concept is probably the first time on Kickstarter that someone has used this marketing strategy and we'll see how it pans out.

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If you want to get people excited about your project share your excitement with them. Post about the dice on reddit, bgg and fb and I mean about the dice, not about the KS campaign.

I am talking more about the PROJECT and less about the "Design". I have publicly shared all the sources that I have posted about the dice: Reddit, Board Game Geek and here on BGDF.com. I'm not really interested in Facebook ... Because it's a pain to maintain a FB Page and keep it updated and etc...

terzamossa wrote:
Even in the unlikely scenario in which you get subscribers based on the "?", they would be curious people who want to check what you are offering. The conversion of those people to actual backers will be extremely low, as the page is somewhat not directed as those who are most likely to back it, but just at those who are overall more curious.

This is a GOOD POINT. And as I share information this is something to remember. But at the same point, you could say that conversion rates between Pre-Launch and Go-Live is about 1:4. Meaning 25% convert. So if I get 1,000 Notification, it means only about 250 will convert. That's the reality and there is nothing that I can do about that.

I think whether you are simply CURIOUS or indeed someone who LIKES dice and enjoys collecting them... Well it means that most people will have an interest in purchasing the dice ... because they are DICE. Not a board game or card game...

Plus due to the VERSATILITY of the dice ... It makes them easy to use and swap out with other normal/standard d6s too!

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Hope this helps, if you need anything for dice manufacturing I recently got quotes from 6 companies.

No worries, I already got a quote for my dice (ballpark). Depending on the nature of the KS, I may still need to negotiate a bit. We'll have to see...

Again a BIG "Thank you" to clicking on the NOTIFY button... We'll see if we can HYPE it up a bit and give everyone a chance to see WHAT these dice look like in reality.

Cheers!

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I've share some more information about Molds...

Over at the Reddit Thread. Here is the Link/URL again:

Reddit Thread

Check it out if you want to know more about Resin vs. Acrylic Mold costs... I've added a comment that talks more about the difference in pricing between these two (2) options.

Best!

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Well slower than I would have liked ... But

I'm waiting until Early October to release a "Update" to all of our previous backers of "TradeWorlds", OLG (and Stan Strickland) have generously agreed to allow this... Which is fantastic because as Stan insisted, there are about 1,000 Backers for "TradeWorlds", and Stan would also be willing to share the news with his 500 "Trench" Backers (there is some overlap) and that should maybe add to our "Followers".

I realize some people will follow just to be advised of the Go-Live and just seek to see what these "Custom" d6s are all about... But we feel that we are offering EXCELLENT value in addition to a 2-for-1 shipping deal, meaning that IF you buy two (2) sets you only pay shipping once...

You heard that here FIRST on BGDF.com! Great value halving the cost of shipping making your purchases SMARTER... Cheers everyone!

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Some people just like to collect Custom Designer Dice

pelle wrote:
If there was some kind of information about what it is there would be a higher chance that anyone would click.

Actually that would suck ... Because you would see the dice and then think that they are only "fancy/designer" and not realize their usefulness. That's why I want to WAIT until the Go-Live, so you easily read all the details not only a 2-line description (which is all that I am allowed).

pelle wrote:
I am a tiny bit curious about what the dice are, for the maths, but confused what the purpose of buying a set would be.

People buy custom dice all the time. I've supported AKO Dice and they've had like 4 Custom Dice KS during that last few years. Here are some examples of current and past campaigns:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/lenpolygon/dultimate-a-multifunctio...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/kacha/ako-poly-dice/description

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pixels-dice/pixels-the-electronic-dice

So you see many people buy dice ... To collect, to enjoy and to use. I will also be looking to maybe help DESIGN an expansion to an existing game with my Dual Dice ... Because it might be practical or cool to use them in a different context.

I've also thought about selling them as an extra dice in a Polyhedral Set as being an 8th Dice... Could maybe make some kind of deal like for every set sold with a Dual Dice, I get $0.25 USD. Something like that...

We'll have to wait and see how things move forwards!

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Hoping for some more support in October

I know there is still 12 days before the end of the month... But it seems like our Followers have "frozen". This is obviously not good... However I find it hard to complain because out of 558 Upcoming Projects, we are at position #230 (Row #77).

This is like HALF way in the projects.

Obviously it would be nice to be in the Top #100 Projects (like maybe Row #30) ... Where most of the people will search for NEW campaigns ... Row #77 is a bit FAR TBH.

But with some additional support in October, we'll see how many Followers we get interested and curious(?) about Dual Dice! Stay tuned for more news and hopefully excitement next month. Cheers!

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I have contacter KS Support...

I'd kinda like some kind of EXPLANATION on how the campaigns are ORDERED. By being in position #230 out of 558 ... This means we will get near ZERO Followers who actually "Search for Upcoming Games". I realize that perhaps the Top 100 entries are actively search and then what comes AFTER is 100% ignored.

I say this because after the Pre-Launch with some posts on Reddit, BGG and BGDF.com I managed to get 15 Followers (better than 10).

But the entire week there hasn't been NOT EVEN ONE new Follower. Which leads me to believe that we are TOO FAR down on the list to even matter.

We'll see what the Support Teams offers up as an explanation... I'd really like to know what it takes to be in the Top 100... Cheers all.

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Well I got a response ... Which is quite "ambiguous"

Basically the Support Specialist told me the "Magic" sort parses KEYWORDS in the Title and Short Description. And based on those keywords, it sort of creates some kind of classification of which it then uses to populate the most "important" (Can I say that?!) campaigns.

As the Support Specialist said:

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Also, our search tools run through the project title and short blurb, both on the "Basics" of your project edit page. If there are key words that are important to your project, make sure you include them in these places.

So it's a bit of a crap shoot where your projects appear. And it is DYNAMIC meaning that after some time, a KS will move from one position to another and even be EXCLUDED from the "Magic" Search altogether!

Great... I've got 15 Follower and they tell me when people search, they may NOT see my campaign because they selected the "Magic" Search Option!

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I'm afraid the real reason

I'm afraid the real reason you are stuck at 15 is still that you have not said anything at all about what the product is. How can it possibly compete with the projects that have dice they show and tell us about what they are?

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This is NOT the KS only Pre-Launch...!

pelle wrote:
I'm afraid the real reason you are stuck at 15 is still that you have not said anything at all about what the product is.

From my description, I have told people to expect "Custom Designer Dice" that are 100% compatible with your standard D6s. I've already disclosed this fact.

pelle wrote:
How can it possibly compete with the projects that have dice they show and tell us about what they are?

I can't TELL anybody what they are UNTIL the Launch/Go-Live of the Project itself... Even with IF I revealed what the DICE look like... You still might still wonder HOW they work.

Furthermore I cannot disclose more than like 200 characters in the description of the Pre-Launch phase... It's only meant to build up Followers that want to be notified when the product is LAUNCHED. Not to present what the product IS.

That's what the KS page is ALL ABOUT! Presenting the dice, showing you the design, having a spreadsheet with the distributions, explanation of the various options, different reward levels and global shipping prices, etc.

This is ONLY a Pre-Launch PREVIEW of what is to come...

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And please remember...

That I got the DESIGN of these dice from a DREAM! They are "other-worldly" for sure. Something so simple yet "futuristic"/"designer" looking ... You would WONDER IF they "WORK"! And the answer to this is: YES indeed they do WORK!

But if you think about some of the dreams you have... They are very "whack-a-doodle" and usually don't make much sense. At least in my case. These dice have not been the ONLY "things" that I have dreamt of that were flying off-the-shelves...!

However these are the only "things" that I can remember fully FROM A DREAM that have made it into REALITY.

We'll see how many Followers I can get in October after a push from my KS Backers...

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The number of Followers has STALLED!

In an attempt to REVIVE the Notifications for this KS Campaign, I will be having an Update proofed such that hopefully we can reach a WIDER audience in early October. In October, I also have to contact my source for making a short 1-minute video to present the PROTOTYPES of the dice and allow them to explain the various probabilities and distributions...

I'll see with them to determine what they think is best for this campaign.

Hopefully we can get this project back on track and resuming the amount of interest deserving for this campaign. Best!

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You heard it first HERE on BGDF.com!

Tomorrow I will send out an Update that Stan from OLG has proofed and accepted to pitch this NEW campaign to our existing Backers. We know that all of the Backers are still waiting for TradeWorlds to be finished Manufacturing such that Freight can begin and once the games reach their designated warehouses... Finally the last leg of the production can be completed: fulfillment.

But to help is spreading the word (and maybe getting some more Followers), tomorrow will be the day that I reach out to about 1,000 Backers and see what they think of this NEW (and EXCITING) campaign.

What will be their reaction?! This we do not know... We've made it quite clear that this will NOT impact the current OLG projects as this is a project that I will be undertaking alone.

With that being said, we honestly hope more people will get on-board and decide to connect with us on Go-Live Day (which will be sometime in early November).

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We're currently moving upwards again

Currently there are 83 Followers... While this doesn't seem like much. I'd much prefer having LESS "Followers" and having people truly interested in the project. As such, if we hit 90+ by next week, that might be an indicator that we are doing okay from the start of the Go-Live (in November).

The simple fact of the matter is to try to ensure that more eyes get on the KS up coming Project Page and hopefully click on the "Notify" Button.

We went from UNDER 20 Follower to now almost 100. Not too bad! It might not be 1,000 because I have seen some campaigns with that many Followers (cheers Antonio!) ... But hopefully people will like what they see and our Video Production should get going pretty soon too!

The bottom line is that it will be hard to predict how people will REACT to the LAUCNCH (Go-Live) with some people curious others who simply love new and exciting "Designer" Dice... We'll have to wait and see!

Cheers all.

Note #1: I had to push back the Go-Live Date to the Middle of November due to the requirements to getting the Video Review done in time for the KS campaign (Go-Live). So this is a week or two delay, nothing too major.

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Prototypes are a b!tch to assemble

I've got to say that the PROTOTYPES for "Dual Dice" which are stickers from The Game Crafter are a real b!tch to assemble. The stickers are hard to peel from their page and then aligning them on the Indented Dice is also difficult. I'd so much like to see REAL dice not digital previews... Or TGC sticker prototypes!

Unfortunately ATM the those are the only PROTOTYPES that I have available and will be sending them to my Board Game Reviewer to produce a short Video of the dice themselves (the prototypes).

Anyways I am soooooo frustrated trying to STICK these tiny stickers on the DICE!

Enough of this... I'll send the prototype designs that I ALREADY have done...

Note #1: You can't imagine how much I will be relieved to make the REAL dice and not these misaligned prototypes. I provided my manufacturer with a STL file of the mold so that they can design the dice EXACTLY to perfection...

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I have delayed the Go-Live by a week or two

It seems that it is taking me longer to mail the Prototype Dice to my Game Reviewer ... But it should get done this week. Just might take a few extra days and I figure that might mean "pushing" the Go-Live date by a week or two.

Basically instead of Launching in early November, I plan to launch is middle November. Like I said, not too big of a deal.

ATM we are at 85 Followers and I think that is GREAT! But for a limited budget and a small cost to advertise the Dice a little... I think I'm doing a good job of getting the word "out-there" (on the Interwebs).

So we'll see what the final numbers look like by the 26 October 2021. That should pretty much "wrap-up" the volume of Followers... After that it will mean advertising to people in friendly circles and a Sci-Fi Push from another KS creator.

One step at a time!

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