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I'm thinking about submitting for

https://mensamindgames.com/about/general-information/

I'm not quite sure how likely I am to do well there, or really what the benefit will end up being, but may be a good use of 15 copies of my game.

Anyone here have any experience with the Mensa board game competition, or what the effect is on your sales if you win? (I'm pretty sure it would be a good way to get into, say, Barnes & Noble)

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I don't know anything about

I don't know anything about it, but good luck if you do submit! The page itself is a bit vague, but I glanced at past winners (Azul, Clank, etc) and alot of the titles seemed familiar, so I think it's safe to assume winning would give you alot of clout.

It looks like a great

It looks like a great competition to enter, as long as you have a completed game. They say that prototypes aren't accepted, but do you think if you have everything finalized, but no publisher, you could still do it?

No, it needs to be for sale

No, it needs to be for sale in the US.

However, they do this every year, and the publication window is 2 years wide for each competition, so there's some flexibility here.

Against my better judgement

As there are no "categories" per say and that probably the games that will be submitted appeal to "multiple" age groups... I would think (against my better judgement) that more "BROADER" games would be only considered. Given their short but previous list of winners (Scattergories, Trivial Pursuit and Taboo) my guess is that a children's game would not necessarily fit the "category" well.

These are all adult games that appeal to Teen and Adult players. Again I'm not trying to dissuade you (You can submit) ... but from what I see and read... The games need to be "mentally challenging" (Trivial Pursuit). You know that your product does NOT appeal to the adult crowd aside from being the Game Master and that's probably a Parent or older sibling.

And then there is the whole "intellectual" aspect. It's not just party games, it's games that encourage mental skill. Rolling a die or following a campaign from a pre-written rulebook, IMHO doesn't fit the category.

Again don't let me be in your way of submitting your game. My gut feeling is that it's going to take much more "meat on the bone" to WIN this award...

Note #1: My gut feeling is that the game winners of this award have to appeal to Teen and Adult players. That's really what I am saying. I don't want to come off sounding like a "jerk"... Like I said, I encourage you to submit your game. But I (personally) don't see it as being the right "fit". Sorry I hope I did not offend you.

Note #2: And since I am NOT the judge of this competition don't let my opinion dissuade you from submitting your game. My apologies, it's just my own thoughts on the matter... Again submit because maybe the judges may feel differently on what is appropriate. No doubt your game is "rewarding" for a younger audience. That may be sufficiently enough, if they consider such games.

Cheers!

^^ Those are some great

^^ Those are some great points. It appears to be geared towards the "intellectual" crown (not saying anyone or your game isn't intelligent!). Something to think about, since it is only being tested by Mensa players.

Yeah, I'm hoping there's

Yeah, I'm hoping there's overlap between Mensa members and D&D players :)

Just pulled the trigger on

Just pulled the trigger on this. Needed to print up some extra copies of my rule book.. I'm still using bestvaluecopy.com (for like the fifth time now). Good results and cheap, except for the $18 shipping charge.

15 copies???

Jay103 wrote:
...I'm not quite sure how likely I am to do well there, or really what the benefit will end up being, but may be a good use of 15 copies of my game...

Nevermind, I read the FORMAT of the game. 300+ Mensian members play the game and each judge the game based on how they feel for each game. 300+ members means that you REQUIRE a lot of copies ... because it's about 5 game plays per "submitted" game (assuming 4 players per game). This is just a broad estimate.

But it's still about 50 x 15 x $40 = ~$30,000 USD worth of games.

It's an expensive contest... But one with a worthwhile prize. Actually ANY contest you can get your game into is good. You can say "1 or 50 Entries" or "1 or 5 Finalists" if you get that far (aside from winning).

10 copies of the game.

10 copies of the game (sorry I misspoke there.. 15 extra copies of the rule book). They're not all playing simultaneously, and not everyone plays every game.

And my landed cost was not $40 :). The only real immediate cost to me is the shipping, which is probably $50-60.

Probably Teens and Up...

Jay103 wrote:
...And my landed cost was not $40 :). The only real immediate cost to me is the shipping, which is probably $50-60.

I know ... but if they had to BUY the games they judged... It would be a very costly affair. That's all I'm saying. I'm not saying you shouldn't try, I'm just saying the previous winners seem indicate broader appeal than just children.

Personally I get the impression that this is a Teen to Adult contest with older Adults involved too (30+ years).

Somehow I doubt that a "mensian" contest would not have a more representative set of players from different age groups. I don't know how young they go... But my guess(!?) would be Teens and up.

Ah, I see what you mean.

Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, they get a lot of stuff for free for their members (members get to take home the games at the end, which is basically their "pay"). So does The Dice Tower, of course.

In this case, the members are filling out feedback forms after each play, in addition to scoring it. So it also functions as a source of playtesting feedback (albeit for a game that's already shipped).

For those holding their

For those holding their breath, I did not win this :)

I don't know about the "Recommended by American Mensa" distinction yet, which is, realistically, what I was hoping to achieve.

Hmm... Sorry to hear that.

Well technically, you could say something like "Mensa's Mind Games Entrant".

Which means that your game WAS selected to PLAY... But not a Finalist or a winner.

I tried to find a BETTER word for "Participant" ... And "Entrant" was the best result from Thesaurus[dot]com. Try to turn the negative result into a positive and spin the whole participation in the Mensa contest. That might get you noticed in some realms where the brainier people figure out what to buy for their children.

Personally I don't enter "contests". Well maybe the Top 20 of "Year" on BGG is "sort of" a contest. It's probably more about POPULARITY and INFLUENCERS. So maybe I should consider myself lucky to have even had an entry that performed OKAY for 2 years... But again, I'm not one for contest. I prefer to promote SERVICES like "The Game Crafter" (TGC) Sanity Tests which only cost like $30 and they'll review and critique your rulebook until it's near perfect.

Sorry... Personally I felt the whole "Kids" thing didn't fit with the whole "Adult Mensa" players. Generally speaking you know the feedback you got from Father Geek's Adult/Millennial crowd: they felt like there was not "enough game". And to be fair, it needs to appeal to "Kids". So sometimes you need to figure out WHO your audience is and focus on that.

Best of luck(?!) with your game. I know the "Expansion" KS was a tough sell and not as many repeat buyers even though you did reach your Funding Goal. Take a STEP BACK ... And try to see if you can "mature" the next expansion for an older crowd (like 8+ years of age). If you do this successfully, you might "win back" the Father Geek Adult/Millennial crowd.

Keep up the good work... See if you can "BEEF UP" the game for an older crowd. I know your daughters are still younger, but they have the benefit of living with the Designer. Cheers!

Technically, I'm a

Technically, I'm a "Finalist", and I have a little sign they gave me to prove it :)

This is more along the lines of the Spiel, not just a regular contest.. It seemed like a good investment.

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Sorry... Personally I felt the whole "Kids" thing didn't fit with the whole "Adult Mensa" players.

It did not.. that's why I'm hoping for the secondary distinction. There wasn't much chance I'd get enough total votes to win, but I think a clear subset might be present who could look at it and see a fun, high-quality family game. We'll see :)

Jay103 wrote:Technically, I'm

Jay103 wrote:
Technically, I'm a "Finalist", and I have a little sign they gave me to prove it :)

Well if the case is that your a "Finalist" go with THAT! That's pretty cool distinction: "Mensa's Mind Game Finalist"!!! That impressive, at least it would impress ME if I saw this on a Game Box at a store...

Jay103 wrote:
This is more along the lines of the Spiel, not just a regular contest.. It seemed like a good investment.

I think IT IS. Being a "Finalist" is good enough for most people. It says that the competition took the time to consider YOUR design. That's GREAT!

But KUDOS to you for having such a NICE "Accolade"... I would get those GOLD shiny Award Seal "stickers" and put one on each one of your "core" Game Boxes! And advertise this on Amazon an your own webstore. Like this:

Congrats!

I just entered for this

I just entered for this year's Boston FIG expo, so maybe I can win an award there :)

Or at least sell some copies!

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