Passion, Pride and Prejudice: social deduction party card game

Interesting to me, because my wife loves Jane Austin but hates social deduction games.

I don't think I have a clear idea of your gameplay. Giving a couple of explicit examples of cards might help.

I'd think prejudice would manifest as a player valuing one of the traits more than it's worth otherwise. So player A is prejudiced to overvalue beauty in a partner, and B, wealth.

I confess I have yet to completely think this through, but there may be a way to assist and/or sabotage players by attempting to deduce their prejudices and loading their hand with those types of cards. This might be doable if you add another stage to the sharing phase of the game, where players pass a card from their hand to the hand of someone else - as long as it doesn't match the type of card revealed by that player - you may be able to add some player influence without too much chaos.

This also initially came to mind with the idea of having "point values" on the cards for the different qualities. A player may have in their hand, for example, Beauty cards with 1, 2, and 3 on them, respectively. They can trade these with other players in an effort to partner with them or to unload a lower-magnitude prejudice card.

Thinking is a bit addled at the moment as this is a short time before my day job begins, but the main idea is that players pass cards of different magnitudes belonging to the different qualities, and the score of their final hand is influenced by their partner.

Hopefully this is helpful! Apologies in advance.

It sounds like a social deduction game where you strictly benefit from revealing your information. I want the best possible partner, so I go into a group and I'm motivated to make sure they know everything about me. There is no "opponent", hidden or otherwise.

Maybe I'm misreading it, but if not, well, that's sort of the opposite of the point of having hidden information.

In a game like Clue, you want to solve a mystery first, so you keep your information hidden so others can't figure it out before you.

In Werewolf or Secret Hitler (etc.), you want to locate or at least neutralize a hidden opponent.

In SpyFall or Chameleon (etc.), you want to convince others that you know a piece of secret information (even if you don't), without giving away too much of that information (if you do).

What is it you're trying to either keep hidden or uncover before your opponents here?

I'm still just not getting it.

So in a round, of which there are 8, I basically just go up to someone and say "I have wealth, beauty and title", and they say, "I have beauty, fashion, and talent". My "passion" is fashion, so I say, cool, let's hook up. And if they need one of my three things (a 60+% chance), they say yes, and if they don't, they don't? Repeat 7 more times?

(and 8 rounds?? Just how high is the minimum number of players??)

Even if you add "prejudice" as a negative I'm supposed to "deduce", how exactly would I gain information about other people's prejudice cards? (and with so many people, how would I effectively track it if I did?)

Okay, so I'm not editing my previous place-holder comment because I want to bump this thread.

Games sounds very neat, but I agree with Jay103. I'm unclear on the rules and I'm having a tough time wondering why I wouldn't just reveal as much info as possible to a potential partner in order to either get the yes or no on whether we're a good match.

Here are some ideas:

--Setup: Players has a single card in front of them that tells them their 3 prides, 1 passion, and 1 prejudice. These are dealt out randomly.
--Setup: At the start of the game, each player reveals their Prejudice to the player on their right; then each player reveals their Passion to the player on the left.
--Setup: There is a deck of 'Gift' cards and/or 'Event' cards that pertains to the traits you want: Wealth, Beauty, Titles, Fashion, Talents.
--Play: Players draw a certain number of Gift or Event cards per turn, and then during their turn, give Gifts to other players (who can refuse a Gift? maybe suggest (only once) that they pass along the Gift to someone else?) or play Events which temporarily pair them up (letting them share info, expose info, or give info, or swap gifts from hand, or some other number of effects.)
--Winning: Players win as pairs / partners (so there are always two winners).
--Point Scoring: Gifts are worth a certain number of points if you take Pride in them. Gifts that coincide with your Passion are worth extra points. Gifts that you are Prejudice against act as negative points. If you are Prejudiced against your partners Prides, those are negative points. If you are Prejudiced against your Partners Passion, its even more negative points. Players get bonus points for each of their Prides that aligns with their partners Prides. If they have matching Passions, then they get bonus points.

So each turn / round would be you going on Events with people or giving Gifts to people. Players are encouraged to watch which players continually give each other Gifts, what type of Gift, which Gifts players refuse, and which players pick other players for Events. This clues them into which Passions, Prides, and Prejudices people have. The Event cards are what let you get info on one another (generally with some other effect) or otherwise manipulate the board / players hands / players choices. Because players start with a bit of info (the player to your right knows your Prejudice, and the player to your left knows your Passion) it gives everyone a little bit of info to work with, initially. Because there's only a set number of rounds, and presumably the play goes quickly, the players must choose between playing Events (getting info) and giving Gifts (scoring points).

Examples of Gift cards:

Portrait (counts as Wealth AND Beauty)
Barony (Title)
Admiralty (Title)
Diamond Earrings (counts as Fashion AND Wealth)
Noble Lineage (counts as Beauty AND Title)
Opal Eyes (Beauty)
Blessed Bust (Beauty; Female only)
Apollo's Belt (Beauty; Male only)
Palatial Estate (Wealth)
Stables (Wealth)
300 Acres (Wealth)
Quick Witted (Talent; you can suggest another player receive a Gift instead; the Gift can't be offered to you again)
Social Charm (Talent; you can participate in any Event you aren't chosen for)
Cunning Linguist (Talent; bonus points if your partner is Female)
Vintage Wine (Wealth)
Antique Heirlooms (counts as Wealth AND Fashion)
etc.etc.etc.

Examples of Events:

Garden Party (Starting with you and going counter-clockwise, each player reveals their Passion to the player on their right.)
Planned Outing (Choose another player. Reveal a Gift that corresponds to one of your traits, and then reveal an Event card to them. That player does the same to you.)
Picnic
Quality Time (Choose another player. Each of you reveals your Passion, Pride, & Prejudice card to one another.)
Rendezvous (Choose another player. Reveal a Gift corresponding with one of your traits. That player does the same.)
Impromptu Gathering (Choose at least four people. Starting with you and going clockwise, each of you reveals a Passion to a player who has not yet revealed a Passion.)
Written Correspondence (This turn, reveal a Gift that corresponds to a Pride or Passion you have to another player. Next turn, that player must do the same to you.)
Love Letter (Choose a player and reveal to them up to three Gifts that indicate your Prides and/or Passions.)
Friend's Wedding:
Birthday Celebration: (Choose a player. He or she reveals his or her Prides to all players. Each player must give that player at least one Gift from their hands.)
Palla Grande (Something cool.)
Galloping Gala (Something cool.)
etc.etc.etc.