If you could help fill out a quick board game survey, it would be greatly appreciated!
Link: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSd_9_H4Gb2eEieKzd09ke54zzWDA9oH...
Note that troll/spam responses will not be count, as we will check over the results after.
It would also help if you sent this link to your friends.
Thanks!
Where did you get all the "KIDS" from this Survey??? 14 and under category is over 50% of the survey... So probably 31-32 out of 61 responses.
I'd be really interested in knowing because I am currently working on a game that is a "gateway game" for kids, parents and millennials to enjoy together. And "marketing" to kids under 12 years is rather difficult...
But your survey seems to be in the opposite direction, having a lot of the younger audience interested in gaming (TableTop Gaming).
Would be nice to know, so I can maybe "pitch" or "market" my future game to these "young gamers"!
Cheers...
Why is there no information on who you are or what you're doing with this data? Are you publishing it?
I would guess that either:
A> He plans to use this information to design a game to the market he is interested in... e.g. See how popular a genre is and design to the most appealing (for example).
B> He plans to publish the results of his survey in a Magazine, Blog, PDF, etc.
I really can't think of another reason WHY he would ask people to submit their response to the survey unless one of those two is true. His questions seem to be about "demographics" and what "people like". So that's why I think answer "A" is the most probable.
But instead of assuming, I guess it's best if we hear it from him/her!
Please do let us know what the GOAL of this survey is exactly for(!?)
Just "bumping" this thread ... to encourage more people to partake in the Survey.
Don't worry it's done in 2 minutes... With the "hardest" question being: "What is your favorite game and why"...
Really a "straight-forward" survey about general "Board Game" personal preferences...
Have a look... The Surveyor even allows you to put in a "dummy" e-mail so as to keep the results ANONYMOUS! (Rather clever...)
It just seems like the survey itself is anonymous. It's a new account, and the survey says nothing about its use. I'd participate if they told me where they were going to publish the results, and I could go see them..
You can see the results IMMEDIATELY after you fill your survey. And IF you keep track of that page, you can consult the results each time another person takes the survey.
No need for the hijibijis ...
The count is at 71 survey responders... Maybe we can help and get it up to 100!
If you haven't taken the survey already, please do! You have a choice of giving your e-mail or using the "dummy" e-mail they provide for anonymous partaking in the survey.
So don't worry, you don't need to give out your e-mail. If you choose to share it with the author of the survey that is your choice.
But for the most part, I believe everyone is going anonymous.
Cheers!
Well it seems like the "Surveyor Guy" is stuck at 71 entries... Not bad. But it could have been better especially with ANONYMOUS (You don't even need to share your e-mail in this survey) access and questions for what seem to be purely speculative reasons...
Too bad the "boardGameSurveyor" doesn't seem to be as concerned. Looks like he hasn't shown up on the BGDF Radar as of lately... Too bad.
Oh well, one last TRY... If you haven't taken the survey, please do nothing bad or too involving 5-6 question done is 30 seconds plus it's fully anonymous!
Cheers...
If Surveyor Guy could explain what's the idea behind his survey I would probably participate ...
I sent a PM encouraging "more" participation in the questions and sought answers from you and Jay103. Hopefully the "Surveyor Guy" shows up again and answers those very relevant questions.
But to be real honest, it's a straight forward survey:
That's it... It takes literally 1 minute to answer... Nothing hidden. My guess it's got to do with understanding what age groups enjoy which games...
But for those who want to wait for "Surveyor Guy" to respond... Let's hope we hear from him/her again!
Note: What interests ME is WHERE he got feedback from kids 14 and under as being over 50% of respondents. I have no clue how to "reach out" to this demographic and I really would like my own feedback from them since I try to design "Gateway Games" which can be played by kids, their parents and older gamers. Anyhow that's my interest in getting some feedback of my own too...!
Could be a way to get advertisement info...
I got an e-mail on my yahoo account a couple years back that was really exciting but fizzled out in similar way. It was a University in Vermont. A group of students was looking for ideas on how to use a "developing technology" in boardgames. The said their intent was to make commercial products that could fund further research in this technology. They intended to use it to help folks that had vision issues or blindness.
They explained that the tech was a way to print an "invisible" visual code into a graphic that could be read by a hand held device. The code could play audio effects, speech, and/or music. I am not a fan of E-mail communication and was so excited I called the school and spoke directly to the group on conference for about 30 minutes. Thing is, such technology was in existence. I had a Train as a child that would play music as it followed a cardboard track. Different cardboard tracks had different tunes. There was also had held devices that would play sounds or speech that came with books. This was in the late 70's early 80's.
Anyway after a few weeks I called back to see if any progress had been made. Nobody knew about the project I spoke off. Department head professor he said the students work independently of direction and knew no details. I found that odd.
The general problems with that survey:
It has categories that I don't really agree with (apples to apples and mafia are totally different games). And then down below, "Deceit" is listed as a THEME, when it's a CATEGORY of game. Mafia and Werewolf are the same game with different themes.
But more importantly, there's no way (for us) to break down the responses by group. If the 14yo responders all like Monopoly (which actually seems to be the case) and the 50yos all like Catan, you can't see that. You just get a vague "of 74 people of unknown demographic besides a set of age ranges, 15% are willing to pay $300 for a good game".
Frankly that sounds a bit absurd.. maybe it's the 1/4 of the respondents who are 12-and-under who thought $300 sounded good.
I did the survey, but I have no way to use anything it tells me. I'm guessing it's someone's HS statistics project or something.
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Also, I feel like some people may not be taking it seriously :)
And I can make a FAIRLY good guess as to what questccg's answer was ;)
The question of how long just makes the survey creator look like an idiot.
I have finally participated in the survey.
But actually I don't like when people just putting their links in several forums but never come back to answer questions.
But actually I don't like when people just putting their links in several forums but never come back to answer questions.
I think that is a unanimous "unlike" for everyone that is ACTIVE on this forum... Yeah 50% of his respondents are 14 and under... Like where is such a young crowd coming from? Not BGG (for sure) and not BGDF (us) ... So somewhere he found a place where younger people must "discuss" board games in general... As I find many people LIKING Monopoly, Risk and Sorry!
I too wish he would RETURN to BGDF to answer some of our questions. Some people are just curious what the Poll is being used for. Is it a school project or market research, etc.(!?)
I thought about this for a while. Could it be a kid itself that posted the link for, maybe a school project?
If the number of kids doesn't rise, the class is already done with this project.
Some, if not most, are neglecting to return to all the places where they posted the link. To say thanks or to say that it is completed and such.
Just guessing here. Sorry if I got it completely wrong.
With over 90+ participants ... many saying that Monopoly is their FAVORITE (yeah — go figure) game to play.
But he/she might hit the 100 surveyor's mark (as previously discussed). We wish he/she the best possible, even if we have not heard from them in a LONG time. The person posting the survey has not come back to BGDF to answer any of the other designers questions and concerns.
Oh well... Maybe he/she will still make an appearance!
I responded. Also, I created a false email, but answered everything else correctly. Just wanted to help them out.
Come on everyone, let's get them to 100 and keep them from publishing Monopoly as the favorite game! Yikes...
Is if you look at the results of Question #7 (the one before the last one), everyone is split at similar percentages from $10-$15 to $100. This seems to suggest that there exists an AUDIENCE of gamers from $10 to $100...
Meaning that there is MARKET SHARE for each of these groups.
It would be worthwhile in correlating this "market share" with the types of games the players are interested in.
At $10-$15 for a game, this has to be things that are relatively inexpensive like a couple Pokemon or Magic boosters. Versus $100 which is probably something like Gloomhaven and is a Miniatures game.
To me it would be really interesting in knowing what kind of games each of those PRICE categories attract. We know $100+ games are usually minis... And as I have explained $10-$15 is probably some TCG/CCG...
I find it very interesting that things are more or less equal among the amounts ($$$). Any one have extra ideas they are willing to share(!?)
I have reached out to the person who posted the initial comment... But he/she has not yet responded. This is my 2ND attempt to try to get them to come back to BGDF and respond to the other designers...
It seems like a few of us have questions concerning the survey (and logistic of where this survey was advertised too).
In any event, they have NOT responded YET!
It looks like about 30 or so survey entries were DELETED! The count is now back to 70...! Wonder what happened(!?) Of course my repeated private message to the owner of the Survey have gone "un-replied"... I somehow doubt that we will be return to BGDF with some answers to our questions...
Anyhow he was at 98 respondents ... That's almost 1/3 of the people who have been DELETED from the Survey!
Definitely strange... Wish he/she would come back and "speak" with us!
You have much higher expectations than I do :)
Just so you know, not everyone here is necessarily in the "mature" demographic. I don't know that much about other people, but I for one am sixteen years of age (seventeen in another week).
I joined because I really like board game design and this sort of thing interests me. Perhaps I am a special case, but just know that you can't immediately tell for sure.
But it's a far cry from having 30% in the 12-14 category. And yes I was aware that "Tbone" was younger (another BGDF member) and now you ("bottercot"). I guess from what people are suggesting, maybe the entire group is from one class... IDK.
I didn't assume everyone is in the "mature" (as you put it) category. But that most of our members are "older" (21+).
It's good to have younger folk too... Gives another "voice" in whatever it is that the designers are doing!
I infrequently offer my opinion for free these days, particularly when I don't know anything about the person or organization doing the asking. In this case, I didn't bother answering the questions and definitely haven't felt driven to do so.
I guess I enjoy helping people who visit BGDF... But I sometimes get the feeling that many people only want answers to their "problems" and don't really contribute too much other than "unloading" their *baggage*. I know this as a Moderator for this forum because I observe what people do and how they interact with the other members on this forum.
I feel it's okay to post about your known issues and ask for help... But I would kindly ask to read some of the other threads and maybe post some feedback, share with us your thoughts... And when I say "your", I'm not talking about let-off, I mean members who seem to come with design issues for guidance and then disappear when they get "some" of their answers.
Our forum is open to all... And we don't have any strict policies about engaging with the community. But I think it should be self explanatory to "contribute" and share your own thoughts with some of the other members. I personally post and share a lot of ideas, feedback, development efforts, etc. And expect some feedback ... but I get the impression our "long standing" members are the ones offering "comments" and/or "feedback".
And so I kindly ask: read through a thread. Share a comment. Offer your opinion... Be motivated by more than your "own" concerns. "Get involved"... And maybe choose a thread that has less comments or someone ASKING for feedback or "your" impressions. I often post these and ask for a simple comment. This community of members seems like it is "dwindling" and perhaps that is because some, if not many of you, see this a "pure" hobby. I too am figuring that this is purely what it is to me too...
So kindly share some feedback, get involved, read a thread (other than your own)... I have been noticing less and less activity and have been wondering if it a question of "time of the year" ... Is January a more difficult month... Are people more engaged and occupied by their real lives. IDK. I'm just asking people to engage more and spend some more time reading some of the threads...
Let's keep this community live...
Turns out this survey came from "Richmond Hill Montessori & Elementary Private School."
...At least that's what it says on the closed survey page. It's somewhere in Georgia. Maybe that's how they ended up with so many young responders. I guess it's easy to pick up data from children when you're either their teacher or a fellow student, eh?
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