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Anonymous

Hey all,
I've been noticing a trend, and please feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I own a handful of "designer" games (I don't know a better term for them) and they seem to have a similar problem:

Once the boxes are open, the pieces punched out, there seems to be little rhyme or reason to the dividers in the box. When a game comes with zip lock bags I am pretty much in shock (the only one I have is 'ticket to ride').

I know cost is a factor. But for a game like Puerto Rico, to no come with an organizational system boggles my mind. It takes forever to sort stuff out if you don't create your own system, and heaven forbid the box gets tipped upside down.

Now to say that it's only "disigner games" isn't completely accurate either. Heroscape (hasbro), is probably the biggest violator of this in my opinion so far. Once you unpack the game, assemble the cool dragon figure, the box offers no easy way for parts to go back into it without the possiblity of damaging the cool pawns (one of the main reasons I bought the game to begin with).

So the questions:
-If you were designing a game box, do you factor in storage systems that would help players get set up faster (keeping parts sepparated)?
-Do you have suggestions for those of us who have games that simply can't live in the box they came out of with out spending hours putting stuff away?
-Is is too much to ask for a game costing <$40 coming with a good organizational system? Or should I plan on buying various sizes of RubberMaid tubs to organize these games?

Anonymous
Box interiors

I just posted something about this very topic in another thread!!

I agree that many boxes seem to come with generic inserts (like the ALEA insert in my copy or Puerto Rico) or generally insufficient space or divisions to logically store the pieces. And those that do will often not have any way to keep the pieces from intermingling when the box is stored on its side.

I have even noticed double deck card games that don't have dividers in the tuck boxes. Testimony of Jacob Hollow doesnt and it has three separate decks that need to be kept separate. Needless to say it's a pain.

If I were designing a game, I would go with a generic insert (to hold the game board and instructions off of the components) and a large space beneath (possibly a divider) and then include bags to store everything. The bags can't cost more than the cost of a vacuum mold to make custom inserts for every game.

As for game components that become too big for the box when assembled, they should either give you a bigger box to store it when completed (like the german "tower" games) or allow the assembled piece to be easily disassembled for flat storage (like Finstere Flure (sp??)).

Best game insert (that I have seen so far) award goes to LotR. Not only does it do a good job storing the bits and boards that come with the game, but it also has the room to store bits from the expansions.

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The most laughable box insert I ever came across was the one that came with "Maharaja". It has spaces for dice, but the game has no dice. It has spaces for cards, but the game has no cards! The components that actually come with the game do not really fit well into those spaces. They just tossed a generic insert into the box to save money, I guess. It's a shame, really, because the game itself is great!

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I would agree that box design is lacking in many games, but keep in mind the cost of production. The more you do, the more the end game costs.

I think many game hobbyists would have no problem playing a little more for this extra quality in packaging, but the companies need to keep cost at a reasonable price for consumers.

Many people here at BGDF have looked into producing a game and its just not that cheap (though I would expect more out of the "big guys" since they have the money to back higher quanities which will reduce the end cost).

Anonymous
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So what do we do with our existing games? Have you guys come up with creative ways of organizing them better?

I know I use a LOT of zip lock bags, especially for games like Sid Meyers Civilization.

Anonymous
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I'm a big fan of plastic boxes for storage of game parts (where it works). I love the Plano boxes that I mentioned in this thread. I use them for all my prototypes and have even used some to organize all the pieces in my copy of Puerto Rico (they even fit in the spaces in the insert that came in the game box).

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SiskNY wrote:
I'm a big fan of plastic boxes for storage of game parts (where it works). I love the Plano boxes that I mentioned in this thread. I use them for all my prototypes and have even used some to organize all the pieces in my copy of Puerto Rico (they even fit in the spaces in the insert that came in the game box).

It looks like the Stanley box woudl be ideal for a lot fo my stuff, but it doesn't appear to be manufactured any more. ANy other thoughts on stuff like this?

Anonymous
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Mine goes everywhere with me! It looks like Amazon carries them (check this page), so I'd believe the larger chain hardware stores would still have them.

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SiskNY wrote:
Mine goes everywhere with me! It looks like Amazon carries them (check this page), so I'd believe the larger chain hardware stores would still have them.

nope... Amazon still carries the listing, but doesn't stock it anymore.

Amazon.com wrote:
This item is not stocked or has been discontinued.

Anonymous
if you want it done right.... do it yourself.

If you are really in a pinch about the box, and you don't mind not having the original art/cover work visible, then make your own.

Yes, taking cardboard or whatever kinda of material you want, cutting it and assembling it can be a pain (so I never do it), but it can be done.

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The Settlers of Catan travel edition has its own problems. There are carefully considered compartments for almost everything, and if everything stays in place it's nice. The problem is that the hollow bottomless plastic board sits on top and there's another 1/4" of clearance on top of that, so if the the box gets tipped everything is a huge mess in side.

Considering that it's the travel edition, getting tipped is a matter of when, not if.

With over 100 1x1.5" cards, and the roads being 3/8" long, and settlements and cities even smaller , sorting out the bits is quite time consuming.

Jason

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They still have them at the two local home depots I have gone to over the last week. Priced at about $15 a piece, so you might want to check the local home depot.

SimonWaltr wrote:
SiskNY wrote:
I'm a big fan of plastic boxes for storage of game parts (where it works). I love the Plano boxes that I mentioned in this thread. I use them for all my prototypes and have even used some to organize all the pieces in my copy of Puerto Rico (they even fit in the spaces in the insert that came in the game box).

It looks like the Stanley box woudl be ideal for a lot fo my stuff, but it doesn't appear to be manufactured any more. ANy other thoughts on stuff like this?

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